What would you suggest then? What would you implement to remove all subjectivity from the review process?
No review process at all.
But Global Court will ban and delete stuff cruelly: )
Global Court is not only Envato Team but Authors with good projects and big experience.
I mean itâs obvious when Folks Copy paste projects. Steal projects. But Envato did not react cruelly coz it gives them money as well as other projectsâŚ
We have to clean it you know. Itâs too messy here right now. Where is a Design? Where are Ideas, Colors, Emotions?
Copy paste Copy Paste Copy Paste money money money
Money is great but without Quality things, it is dangerous I think.
Maybe they were a bit harsh with your review, but if there was no review process at all, the site would be even more of a mess. In fact, it would be that bad, that buyers would probably be turned off and go elsewhere. And there would be thousands of results for buyers to go through, rather than hundreds⌠theyâd get fed up of wading through all the rubbish.
I canât see it working. As for this court, how would they be subjective? Could you be bothered to log in every day and spend the time to rate/vote/ban thousands of new items? What if Dave has loads of slideshow videos and Sarah always seems to outsell him⌠maybe heâll down vote all of her projects?
I just canât removing the review process to be any good for VideoHive in the long run.
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And one thing to note⌠if an author has stolen a project, or copied and pasted a project, then they should be reported by the original author. And if thatâs the case, the item will be removed. Reviewers donât have time to go through every single existing project on VideoHive, to compare it with a new submission when reviewing the item. It would take hours instead of minutes.
There is a fine line between copying/stealing, and being âinspired byâ though⌠so they need to be raised on a case by case basis. Until they are, then if a certain style of item is popular and sells, then it would make sense to approve it if itâs of a high standard.
Ok but Creative Market works without a review. Your reputation is the main thing there but I think they will ban you if you will do bad stuff.
I think âreview processâ is an old approach anyway. Itâs like " you have to be on WORK at 8:00 )), you have to do it right etc "
My Global Court is an only raw concept itâs not finished project how to manage all these stuff properly. But the Idea is: It should work differently, more freedom.
I think they need the numbers, so not having a review process would get more items through the door. That would probably change if they had a bigger portfolio. Theyâve got just over 1m items, and Envato has just over 11m.
Sure, quality not quantity and all that jazz⌠but a lack of review is more likely to result in quantity not quality, than it is the other way around.
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Oh my god just sell it somewhere else. You didnât submit a lifetime of work, this project takes a couple of days to make at most. Itâs not the reviewerâs job to tell you how to make your project good enough to be approved.
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Thank you for your thoughts and time mate!
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(Mod - Edited). Some of my work were accepted in HD and rejected in 4K and vice versa ⌠and the rejection reason why the quality bs they tell us everytime ⌠itâs like cops you know they have to give a certain number of tickets everyday!
I agree with you now days reviewer needs to give us a valid reason to reject any itemâŚ
Atleast give us a reason to improve our work.
Very Good Point! Especially I like Now Days.
Because itâs really true.
Hey, Folks it does not work these days. You canât just reject stuff. You have to consider personality anyway.
Itâs pretty disrespectful. Doing this you say, Hey f⌠off mate you are too small. And this is addressed to Authors.
You are losing respect guys, you are losing it.
And now FUN Stuff popped up : )))
Here is an email a day after they told me âf⌠off mate you are too smallâ 
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Hello Mihailvasilev Post,
At Envato we love to hear what you think of our customer service. Please take a moment to answer one simple question by clicking either link below:
How would you rate the support you received?
Good, Iâm satisfied
Bad, Iâm unsatisfied
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What I can say here ? Only one thing, itâs Fun guys You Rock : ) ) ) )
I feel that theyâve given the most accurate and efficient reason that they can give. That itâs just not good enough. Iâm no reviewer, but hereâs the way I see itâŚ
A) If you have to explain why, for every item that is rejected (which is the majority of items submitted), then itâs going to increase the review times considerably. Days will become weeks and weeks will become months.
B) There will be a line when it comes to items that are so bad that thereâs just no point in explaining whatâs wrong, because if thatâs the personâs best work, then itâs very unlikely they will ever have anything accepted. Then thereâs no real benefit for Envato to explain whatâs wrong, and thereâs no real benefit for the author, as that information is unlikely to ever result in approval.
C) Thereâs two ways you can explain whatâs wrong. You can say âyour font (for example) isnât good enoughâ, or you can say âyou should have used X font insteadâ. The former might not help the author, as they obviously thought that font was good enough to submit it⌠and knowing the font is wrong might not fix anything. Theyâll just change the font, possibly to one of hundreds of fonts that still arenât good enough. Rejected again? Theyâll just change the font again, with no guarantees theyâll get the right one. Explaining what is wrong will just ensure the person knows what is wrong⌠they wonât necessarily know what to do about that.
On the other hand, the latter (explaining what they need to do to get it approved) would set a dangerous precedent, as 1) The reviewer is dictating how the finished item should look and 2) theyâre filling in the blanks for the author, and essentially coaching them to make their item better, which isnât their job and shouldnât be.
If it was a case of telling the author what they need to do to get it approved, then that means somebody could upload a white solid going from left to right, thatâs it, and then the reviewers would guide them into making that some kind of top selling item.
Hereâs my latest logo reveal project. Check it outâŚ
So youâre a reviewer, how would you explain what is wrong with it? Would that information help me in creating a great logo reveal that gets accepted? And what would you say that I need to do to make it better? What exactly do I need to do to get that approved?
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Well, the question is âare you happy with the service youâve received from the customer support teamâ. Itâs not âare you happy with the review teamâ, so you should answer the question at hand (if you want to), rather than let it be clouded by other things which theyâre not asking about.
Thereâs nothing wrong with raising issues you may have or highlighting your concerns, but your dissatisfaction with the review team, doesnât automatically mean that the support team are rubbish.
What about this stuff (logo) Hmm
I have been doing design and learning design for 15 years.
So For the professional designer, There is an obvious line between bad design and good design (good enough to be approved).
Reviewers Have to HARD reject stuff like this ( this logo you provided ) But They have to say what was wrong there. Itâs vital for Good relationships. Spam like messages from support team is bad thing
And If the reviewer canât say what was wrong ( in his opinion ) He/She have to go to Do another work.
The support just Does not Work properly.
If one person is disrespectful to you It automatically means that all company disrespectful to you until this person will be fired or will give an excuse and correct mistake that was done.
About 'are you happy with the service youâve received from the customer support teamâ
They provided a text field with extra comment so I just filled it with my feeling: )
In my particular case, the design is good enough. It is not my maximum but I spent 4 days to develop this liquid paint fx ( paint is moving slightly). Also, I always test my work. I did a good preview for it. But what was that thing that stopped it ?
A Comment about timing is total bs Because every Motion Designer can Make it faster if needed. But this version is 3 sec per transition. Itâs cartoony slow pace transition. Itâs not super fast glitch stuff.
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And doing design for 15 years means that on average, you have a higher chance of getting your item approved than the average guy on the street, or somebody who has been doing design for less than 15 years⌠but it doesnât, and shouldnât, mean that your item will get automatically approved.
Doing design, or singing, or dancing or writing for 15 years doesnât automatically mean youâre good at something. Iâm not saying youâre bad or anything⌠itâs just that you canât use length of time doing something as a marker of quality.
Why do they have to hard reject it? Whatâs wrong with it? How would you explain whatâs wrong with it, and how would that benefit both Envato and myself? The reviewer may be more than capable to explain what is wrong with something, but that doesnât mean they have to⌠or mean that itâs feasible to do so. My point in producing that magnificent animation is to get you o think about what form this feedback would take, and what value it would add to the current process.
I just find itâs all too easy for new people to come along with all these amazing ideas of how to make the site better, but they donât really think them through⌠what it will actually achieve, what it will involve, what form it will take, what it will cost, how it will affect different areas of the business, how it will benefit authors, Envato and buyers, is the time and the cost worth it etc.
Is it though? You think itâs good enough, but the reviewer didnât think itâs good enough. If itâs possible that youâre right and the reviewer is wrong, then surely itâs also possible that youâre wrong and the reviewer is right?
Iâm curious why you think the support doesnât work? Did they do something wrong? Did they provide you with incorrect information? And as for the reviewer being fired for not approving your item⌠donât you think thatâs maybe a bit extreme?
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I am so sorry for interrupt, i have 1 concern
My envato account username is âwestsidevectorsâ
yesterday i uploaded 1 logo for review but they are rejected with out mention any reason⌠i attached the logo sample⌠can you give me any valid reason to reject this logo⌠so that i can put it into my mind and try not to repeat in futureâŚ
Thanks
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Sorry but I can. It simply hours of practice ( 10 000 Hours of practice rule ) Iâm not super cool designer at this moment but I have very good experience in Art and Design.
but it doesnât, and shouldnât, mean that your item will get automatically approved
Sorry mate. Itâs your words, not mine. I said only that I can make out what is bad and good design. And I also said that I deserve logical, reasonable answer from reviewers team.
The reviewer may be more than capable to explain what is wrong with something, but that doesnât mean they have toâŚ
They have to. Itâs about respect for people. Itâs the obvious thing and itâs simple to do. Respect is normal for Humans.
I just find itâs all too easy for new people to come along with all these amazing ideas of how to make the site better`
Iâm not so new here. And yes, new people is vital for any company with their new Ideas.
Iâm curious why you think the support doesnât work? Did they do something wrong?
Yes. It works badly. No respect to Authors as I said before. Spam Like messages directed to busy and interested people. No practical information. I got 3 emails with absolutely zero meaning.
And as for the reviewer being fired for not approving your item⌠donât you think thatâs maybe a bit extreme?
No. I do not want the reviewer being fired. Respect and clean communication that are Iâm talking about.
You think itâs good enough, but the reviewer didnât think itâs good enough. If itâs possible that youâre right and the reviewer is wrong, then surely itâs also possible that youâre wrong and the reviewer is right?
In this case, I need the only reasonable answer from them. It seems like they canât do it. But I also have concerns about their competence. The last one is just my personal opinion.
Hmm
I think if it was not stolen, itâs good enough to be approved:)
Maybe a bit standard but it looks clean end well enough designed. Maybe it is not enough amount of information they want to have. I mean different versions of the logo etc
Iâm not a reviewer but if I would I would test shapes and overall organization of the file. And if it would be good I approved it for sale.
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