Hello dear community of Envato! I thank you for the opportunity to participate, and to develop together with professionals! If you respect your authors, give them an opportunity for self-improvement! I propose to remove Hard Reject without explanation of the reasons! there are musicians who create their items for 3-4 months, and get a hard reject without explanation of the reasons! Let each reviewer work hard, spend five minutes of time, and write a specific reason for refusal! Please do this at least for authors with an experience of 1year +!
Proposal 2, has already been raised …
Let’s move on to Lufs and solve half the problems of all technical disasters, wars, and destruction of the dynamics!
5 minutes of time, multiplied by the number of submissions received (even if only applicable for 1year + author)?
This would probably stretch the review queue length like never before. The idea of better feedback isn’t bad, but how to do this while keeping the review queue to a decent length?
This is a good offer, but not feasible, otherwise you will not see a “hard rejections” an “approved”, at least 1 year. Because the time of checks of the tracks would have increased.
I don’t know, presumably a reviewer does sit and listen through the entire length of every track, so there’s no reason they couldn’t write some very simple bullet points as they listen. It wouldn’t take any extra time at all.
You might be right: Something like a checklist indicating the main problems could be doable, I guess (and certainly better than the very generic and almost useless automatic form in use at the moment).
I think the Forum can provide such feedback functionality. There are alot of posts people started about «Hard reject! Tell me what’s wrong», and they are usually get answered (at least on AJ). The reason for reject is usually either low overall production quality (wich means it can be found by simply A/B top-seller and rejected track), or non-commercial (non-stock) music (wich means again that the autor should dig deeper in the market to understand it’s nature and trends). Maybe it would be nice if the reviewer could give a hint, for example “Production quality”, “Commercial standards”, “Too simple\pastiche”. When I get hard reject (rarely) I sit, listen to my track and draw concusions why it was rejected, but usually I know why (non-commercial!).
In theory sounds great… but i’m willing to bet a great percentage of the tracks they only need to listen to 10-15 seconds (or less) before they press the big red button. I’m basing this opinion on the absolute junk i submitted when I first started
That’s what I think too. I can only imagine what stuff from hell they have to listen to. Also, I don’t think it’s their job to educate people. That energy and focus are better invested in keeping quality at a high level.
I don’t know how a reviewer is asked to accept/soft reject a track, but I guess there is a form to fill somehwere.
I suggest that there could be a check box or radio button added to the “rejected” button, and they could choose either “mixing/mastering” or “other”.
At least we would know if we have to work on the mixing… or if the composition or anything else is involved.
I have seen that we are many to ask this question: should I improve my mixing, clarity, separation, lack of brightness, definition… or is it simply that my composition is not worth it…
Just one choice: mixing issue / other… it would already immensely help!
I experienced a rejection… someone here (he was the only one, thanks to him!) told me that he had the feeling he was listening to a 96kbps mp3… then I realized my mix was muffled. I fixed it… and this time my track was approved!
Thank you very much for the answers guys! Your opinion is very important to me! what I realized is that every failure is a challenge to make your work even better, change yourself, reach a new peak in your skill! But when I’m given a hard reject, I go through dozens of possible options in my head, literally rewriting the item from a new sheet, and the reason for the refusal could be excessive clipping due to Loudness war, or too compressed … so trivial, just two lines to write it is it so difficult for the reviewer?
Many years ago reviewers used to spend time giving good advices on how to improve the track so it would get approved after next subbmiting if was properly solved.
Once AJ went so popular these reasons are not given any more in favour of a faster queue for review. I really encorauge you to post your rejected tracks on the forum and you will be given good tips on how to health those rejected songs
For instance I remember for this item
the reviewer soft rejected it so he told me to make simpler flute lines because he said the flute ,elody was too busy. These days i could picture the same situation in a hard reject issue without any north to orientate myself
There are a lot of videos and forums on the Internet (in any language) where they discuss the reasons for the failure of AudioJangle. The author is too lazy to investigate this and not make mistakes in his tracks. He wants to shift this work to reviewers and deprive other authors of the opportunity to move quickly in the queue for the sale of tracks.
I am absolutely against these proposals! It’s blind selfishness and laziness. Turn on the brain and you will be clear why your track is rejected. It is very bad (to be lazy) and unpromising …
I was rejected by more than ten tracks, in the first months of my sales and, every time I realized why it was rejected. This taught me very quickly and my tracks were not rejected anymore. Because I was studying!
I do not want to go on personal insults! before writing about laziness, selfishness and hopelessness, you need at least to find out what kind of work the person is doing … what a person has inside, with such words he expresses himself!
I did not mean that. Of course, I wrote about what I was - but I could change it. I’m about beginning authors, not about you. I think that it will be useful for them to strain the brain, and not to hope to earn a lot of money with little effort. (*I myself wrote music and I know how long and difficult it is. Many of my tracks were rejected without explanation. But, I think this is correct).
This site is commercial. This is a business, not a “college for young geniuses.”
That might be true for full songs. But for idents that are only 10 seconds long or even for sound effects with only 3 seconds this would take extra time. I’d prefer helpful feedback too, but I also want my items to be processed in time.
For me the best way of correcting rejected item would be a really few words written by controler. In any audio or visual form may be very difficult to know the reason. It is often subjective. My works were also rejected: Rejected video and I still do not know the reason:)
