I agree with you. There is no place for creativity anymore.
100% Agree!
Maybe something like this would be a step in the proper direction:
Ranking the tags would work wonders in this case as well.
This is the best solution, great idea
Totally with you on that @soundroll!
Thatâs really ridiculous and confusing that when youâre searching for an inspirational, youâre getting a christmas, corporate, epic, sad, happy, military, dramatic, slow, fast, pop/rock âinspirationsâ at onceâŚ
How much time would you spend on scrolling all those genres if you need something exact?
And thatâs where the tags and descriptions should really shine!
It will be beneficially for clients, for authors and for Envato. Now I donât know even who exactly benefit from it, except some top selling âinspirationâ named files, while otherâs are just being buried alive.
What frustrates me is that there has been overwhelming if not unanimous support for change on the title (over) weighted search, and many different great suggestions over time that could have been implemented; yet here we stand living in the prediction made by so many of a marketplace ruled by the same one word titled tracks.
Itâs sad really, because it makes authors look like rats scrambling for the same piece of cheese. Authors are forced by nature of the system to try and game and manipulate it; itâs the only way to stay competitive and survive. Itâs extremely unprofessional and makes the site look bad.
It used to be that many great tracks would eventually rise the ranks on their own as the music would sell itself. Hard work would pay off because you could at least count (somewhat) that quality would rise to the top - or a least rise a little.
I donât think thatâs true anymore however. What is equally alarming about this is that inspiration and motivation to write for AudioJungle is declining because of this - for me at least. I donât know about you, but I donât want to make an enormous production effort and have to fight to sell a track by sheer title weighting/stuffing. Itâs extremely discouraging to spend so much time on something and know that the music wonât be offered the chance to sell itself! Itâs an absurd situation.
Now AudioJungle may argue âsales have continued to riseâ. I donât know if they have or havenât, but short term growing sales is not something to use for a long term strategy if the current system forces composers to start going elsewhere to write and license music.
Seriously, the problem NEEDS to be addressed and now!
Keep going this way and here is the best selling track of the future:
Inspiration Motivation Corporate Epic Track
Hmmm. Actually that title wouldnât work, itâs way too long But hopefully you get the point. Refuse to change, and the quality bar is going to need to be lowered because these will be the only composer/producers left!
Completely agree @soundroll
Hm,seems that the ones who are least happy with audiojungle are the same ones who sell the mostâŚThe world we live inâŚ
Thereâs nothing wrong with wanting to make this site the best it can beâŚ
Yeah⌠Iâm sure it has nothing to do with certain authors also being around for 5-7+ years who started when the site was in itâs infancy, having also invested a lot of time, money and energy into growing the marketplace which everyone enjoys today. Hope itâs clear that Iâm not just talking about myself.
By the way, you see that âBrowse by Moodâ, âBrowse by Music Genreâ Browse by Category", Browse by Instrument" system youâre using on your portfolio? Do you know who was the first one to start doing that on AudioJungle? Yours truly.
Or posting images and using custom links in your description when authors used to just add text⌠Do you remember who was the first one to do that on AudioJungle? I remember.
I know, because I was here when all that started. My point is this, it makes sense that the ones here longer would be vocal. Sales may just also be an indication of investment. When you have put so much time into something, it only makes sense that you want to see it continuing to succeed. Itâs not like Soundroll or myself are asking for something strange - we want a fair, professional search engine that actually works and allows buyers to find what they are really looking for. We want creativity and diversity in a market that is by nature supposed to be creative.
Strange comment @MetroMusic .
The world we live inâŚ
Whatâs your point? Mostly anyone who started something great was unhappy about something in a first placeâŚthatâs how difference for the better occurs.
Thats the point and it clearly has something to do with more than just how many sales youâve made this month because of the titles.
Iâve touched on this before as well. Itâs become ridiculous. The balance is clearly out of whack when so many authors feel compelled to use the same single word titles to manipulate the search engine. I have continued to use vaguley representative titles in the belief that eventually AJ would change the weighting to something a little more sensible and useful but the clock has ticked for longer than I expected and still the situation deteriorates along the same lines.
I think itâs down to money again. If AJ generates only for example 5% income for whole Envato Market operation I donât think from the business / money perspective they will put web developers for a month or two to get it sorted properly. Web developers who can build up really intelligent system for search based on tags / description they are clever and expensive. And probably already busy.
I think the fact that Tim Mcmorris is weighing in shows how much of an issue this is.
@rtofvnt You have brought to light a great point. If it is true that AJ only makes up 5% of Envato revenue, why would they funnel energy into developing a new search engine? You stated âWeb developers who can build up really intelligent system for search based on tags / description they are clever and expensive. And probably already busy.â
How much would the development cost to change to âdescriptive keywordsâ based search?
Is it really that labor intensive to change from the title ranking #1 in the search results to keywords ranking #1?
The best results would come from insisting that the customer enter a minimum of 3 keywords and encouraging them to enter 5 descriptive words. Essentially, do not even deliver a playlist until 3 descriptive words are entered. Make that a requirement. Then take title out entirely!
Encourage them to enter: genre, tempo (fast, medium, slow) then 3 more descriptive adjectives such as happy, bouncy, fun, upbeat, sad, epic, motivate.
It is nice to see top selling authors finally speaking out publicly about this problem. Yes it is very immature and unprofessional and not at all creative and totally boring and ridiculous to name every track âinspiredâ. Do you not see a problem when thousands of tracks have the EXACT same title?
How much will it cost to change this situation and develop what we are all asking for?
I donât understand what is your point? Talk to me directly.
This is a very actual issue. Thanks for raising it up again and again.
Agree with Soundroll 100%.
+1 for a change
I always tried to stay away from the crappy generic names, but guess what I got back in return for doing so? Crappy sales! Yes crappy sales! And I know that my music might not be the best, but I would like to give my tracks good unique names, rather than generic crap. ENVATO WAKE UP, ALL THE BIG GUYS HAVE SPOKEN ON THIS THREAD! Business is business, but without them there will not be AJ, but without AJ there still can be authors. Hope you know what I meant in my rant.
I agree but without all the other authors in addition to the âbig guysâ there would be a very small portfolio of work on AJ and very few buyers as they would be on another micro stock sites. Audiojungle may not bring in the big bucks, but Envato needs it, in order to offer a full service to rival other micro stock sites. We should all recognise our collective worth.