Corporate rejected, what is it wrong? Thank you!

Hi guys,

my last track was rejected, I need some feedback… Thank you so much!

Theres something about the bass that bothered me… i guess it sounds too MIDI and artificial

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Thank you for the comment!
I used a Rickenbacker bass by NI, maybe is not the right bass for this genre… But I don’t think it is so MIDI… Thanks again, cheers! :slight_smile:

I agree with Floberaudio and in my opinion main guitar sound too midi.
Bass should work together with kick drum, bas sometimes is out of tempo.
Bass…maybe eq or look for “right bass for this genre”:slight_smile:

good luck

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Thanks for the comment! :slight_smile:
But I don’t understood, also the bass sounds MIDI or only the main guitar?

I agree about the bass. It’s not so much about the quality of the sound, but perhaps the consistency. It has a strange kind of randomness to the velocity of the notes which isn’t quite smooth. Maybe a synth bass would work better for this kind of track.
For me though, the most un-natural sounding part is the guitar. especially the slides.
Also, the early piano chord is sometimes not very well defined as it is muddied by the hammer-on bass notes which make it sound slightly odd.

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Thank you for your explanations @criskcracker, very kind!
I don’t know, the bass notes velocity is enough regular, maybe the sound is not right for the track… about the slides of the guitar, I could improve but these slides are the default of the plugin I used… Yes, I have to improve these sounds, thanks a lot for your advices! :slight_smile:

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I don’t know how to explain specially because english is not my main language, but it feels like i can see you pressing the keys on the keyboard when i hear the bass goove you know? :stuck_out_tongue:

but overall its a very beautifull track, grats!

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Ahaha, yeah, my fingers pressed too for the bass line and the result maybe it’s very hard! :slight_smile:

Thank you @DeMenegazzo! do you have italian origins? your last name seems to me from Italy (I’m italian)… ciao!

yes! but i’m from Brazil :slight_smile:

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Not sure if it helps, if I second that the bass seems out of rhythm. That’s the thing I mainly noticed while listening. All the best. (=

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Many thanks for your feedback! :slight_smile:
The bass plays an eighth note on upbeat of the four beat in bar no 1 and in bar no 3 of a 4 bars structure and the same for the piano chords, maybe this can make some dissonance … the kick plays quarter notes…
Thanks again for your advice, best wishes! :slight_smile:

To me the bass rather sounds like tripplets or so … almost at least. Could it be that the samples have some kind of delay at the start? Some sample library developers are a bit lazy sometimes and seem not to care about tight note starts in their samples. (-;

It could also be that some other instruments make the bass just “seem out of rhythm”. Maybe you could mute one voice after the other and look if there might be some instrument somehow “interfering” with the bass rhythm or so …

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Thank you @EmotionTune for your interest!

Now I decided to play one piano chord per bar, so this is the result:

In this example sound only bass, piano, drums (and the synth on intro)…
I don’t hear problem of syncro, maybe I’m wrong again… :slight_smile:
Many thanks and best wishes!

The bass still sounds a bit too “laid back” to me. With such a beat I would expect a more tight bass. Maybe it’s also just a matter of taste, since “laid back” is nothing wrong in general! Maybe some other composers will also give some feedback. Good luck! (=

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Do you mean “laid back” because the bass seems less rhythmic? Or do you mean the sound presence, a bass more powerful?

Hey, sorry for my late reply … somehow I must have missed the notification. My answer to your question: with “laid back” I am only talking about the rhythm. It’s a common term (in jazz for example) and means that the instrument does not 100% plays exactly on the beat, but slightly behind.

Either you could fix this by moving your MIDI notes slightly ahead, or maybe there is even an option in the sample library to let the bass play more tight.

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Thank you so much for your advice, I resubmitted the track with one piano chords per bar, but I had a new refusal… I will try to improve the bass line as you said, thanks again, best wishes and good holidays! :wink:

Ill try to be short. In this case i would personally change the bass to a synthetic one, replace the kick , replace the cheezy strings with some modern pad and replace the fake nylon guitar with a synth (lead/pluck) sound. What i mean is that all these instruments make this track sound like a generic MIDI demo on an old Yamaha PSS from the 2000’s, if you know what i mean. I think modern, less cheezy sounds would definitely improve the quality of the track. Wish you all the best!

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Thanks a lot @PhreaSpirit for your feedback!
Do you mean the Yamaha PSR? I love it!
Anyway I’ll try to follow your precious advices, thanks for your time!
Best wishes! :slight_smile:

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