Technical problems when saving EPS and AI files to older versions


#1

Hello,

I am trying to upload my first project.

As stated in these instructions (https://help.market.envato.com/hc/en-us/articles/202501504-Logo-Templates-Submission-Requirements), the EPS file must be version 8-10. I am using Illustrator CC, and whenever I am trying to save to an older version (AI or EPS) I get this notice before the export:

“Saving to a legacy format may convert all type to point type and may disable some editing features when the document is read back in. Also, any hidden Appearance attributes will be discarded.”

And so when I read back the exported EPS file, all fonts are converted and not editable anymore, and also the artboards are lost and replaced with a single one in the center of the document.

Am I missing something, because I can’t find the solution anywhere? How can I save to Illustrator 10 EPS without losing editing capabilities?

Any insight on this subject will be much appreciated. Thank you!


#2

Start Adobe Illustrator CS6 and open your .ai file by clicking File -> Open… Under the “Files of Type” drop-down, select "Adobe Illustrator (.AI,*.AIT)". Browse to the folder where you stored your .ai file, select it, and then click the “Open” button.
Your artwork will load and then you need to click File -> Save As… Under the “Save as Type” drop-down, select "Adobe Illustrator (
.AI)". Name or rename your file and click the “Save” button.
On the next screen you will have a couple of decisions to make. Under the “Version:” drop-down you have options to select version 3, 8, 9, 10, all previous CS versions or even JI 3. I also check “Create PDF Compatible File”, “Use Compression” and “Embed ICC Profiles” if needed. Once you have everything set the way you want, you can click OK.


If a dialog box appears stating that “Saving this document in an older format may convert all type to point type and may disable some editing features when the document is read back in. Do you want to continue?”, you can just click OK, but make sure that you have kept the original CS6 file and have not overwritten it.

This is a fairly common occurrence for version formats not being backward compatible, but most of the time the effects are unavoidable.
Your new exported file is now ready to use.

P.S. About EPS problem:

  1. Illustrator saves every Illustrator EPS together with the Illustrator fork of the selected or current version.
  2. EPS flattens transparency. When you place an EPS in any application including Illustrator you get a flattened version of that file without transparency.
  3. When you open an EPS which is saved from Illustrator in the same version or a newer version of Illustrator you get the transparency back, not because it is an EPS as EPS does not support transparency but because the Illustrator fork is included in that file which is used by Illustrator.
  4. You can open an Illustrator EPS and resave as PDF/AI. This will create a file with transparency. This transparency is also alive when you place this file in applications which support transparency, like InDesign, Photoshop, Illustrator, etc.
  5. When an EPS is saved in a newer AI version either the EPS part is used or it is not possible to open. You get a flattened artwork without transparency.
  6. Illustrator is not a common PDF editor. The same is valid for EPS too. You will encounter the same problems you encounter when you open an non-Illustrator-PDF as you do with a non-Illustrator-EPS.
  7. You can convert any EPS in Adobe Distiller to a PDF. But be aware, even if the EPS has transparency information included in its AI fork, this information is lost by converting via Distiller. A Distiller PDF can not include any form of transparency.
  8. If you choose to convert an EPS in Distiller and you are aware about the transparency issues (as it is not a problem with older EPS or Freehand EPS or Corel EPS) use a setting which include all used fonts (they need to be available), turn off any image compression and image resampling and fit size to EPS content, and avoid any conversion of colors.

#3

Thank you for your reply, but I am still not getting there yet…

First of all, I don’t have Illustrator CS6, but Illustrator CC.
My problem is that I need an editable unflattened EPS 10 file exported from my current version of Illustrator, but when I try to export the EPS file, I lose my artboards as well as text editing capabilities.

I have tried everything you said, but my EPS files are broken and not accepted by the reviewers, the reasons being: text not editable, artwork not on artboards.


#4

I agree with you @olga_be

I also try to save EPS 8 and EPS 10 no luck. Text not editable, artwork not on artboards.

Envato has to remove requirement of eps 8 &10.


#5

i do agree, for me tis makes little sense to keep it


#6

I have the same problem but how other people saving their files to EPS?