Elements, Marketplace and the future of Envato: questions and doubts.

Hello everyone,

I’m not an active user in the forum, but I follow some discussions with interest and pleasure, especially those regarding Envato’s recent business decisions, which inevitably impact us, the authors.

Let me start by saying that I’m not an elite author, nor do I have a large portfolio or many sales. I’m saying this for clarity because someone might argue that I don’t have much of a right to speak. However, I’ve been an AudioJungle author since 2017, and this platform has given me some small satisfactions over the years.

Following various discussions, as many of my colleagues often repeat, unfortunately, AudioJungle (and the marketplace as a whole) is slowly dying. Everything now revolves around Envato Elements, but this has probably been evident for some years now.

I’m not entirely against the decision to launch Elements (speaking as an audio author, so specifically regarding music) because all other libraries are using this model, and Envato wanted to somehow keep up with its competitors. Even though this move has fractured the marketplace and led many authors to not only earn significantly less but even leave the platform, this is not the issue I want to discuss here.

What bothers me the most is that Elements has always been a closed circle, particularly for music. You can only join by direct invitation. Let me clarify that it’s not my priority to be part of Elements, as I’d probably only earn a pittance, and it wouldn’t change my life. Of course, I wouldn’t mind being part of it, just to be clear.

But honestly, this decision by Envato is very questionable, and I’ve never fully understood it. Why restrict access to Elements when you can still upload tracks to AudioJungle? I’m speaking as someone like myself who is part of the marketplace but hasn’t yet been invited to Elements. Why invite only certain types of authors? What are the criteria? Sales? Music genre? Being an elite author? Consistently uploading high-quality tracks?

What parameters do they use? It all seems so unclear and non-transparent. I think about authors who, for instance, have been part of the platform longer than I have (I know because I’ve read about many such authors on the forum who aren’t on Elements): why not invite these authors? Especially those who are still uploading tracks today?

I’ve read that a lot depends on “client needs.” What exactly are the musical needs of clients? All vague answers. I know this topic has been addressed many times, but I also wanted to share my opinions, doubts, and concerns about it.

Out of curiosity, I even contacted Envato’s support to see what they would say, and their response was as follows:

As I understand how important it is to know the parameters, this is an internal process done by a specialized team, and as Author Support, we do not have access to the information about the invites sent to some authors.
We recommend our authors keep contributing with fantastic content and make sure to participate in the community for visibility. However, multiple factors could affect this situation, and it is not guaranteed that more invites will be sent (or that won’t be sent).

A very unclear response, to say the least.

In my humble opinion, wouldn’t it have been more transparent and fair to allow submissions to be approved for entry into this program, like other libraries (which I won’t name)? If the idea is to have a certain level of audio tracks for Elements with specific requirements, why not give authors the chance to apply? Even with very strict criteria.

I’ve even heard of new authors who joined Elements immediately (from what I’ve read on the forum), always thanks to this invite-only system. Why exclude long-standing AudioJungle authors? After all, Envato has grown thanks to our work.

Let me repeat, I’m not particularly interested in joining Elements, but I just wanted to express my doubts and concerns, as well as what bothers me about this lack of clarity from Envato. I say this with sadness because AudioJungle was the very first music library where I sold my work. Here, I learned to produce tracks in different genres and entered the world of music production.

Today, my tracks are on other platforms, and I’ve also started working for exclusive libraries. So, it pains me to admit that Envato has made some weird decisions in recent years, in my opinion. Since it’s now owned by Shutterstock, the future for us authors is becoming less and less promising.

I’m pretty sure the marketplace will be abandoned, and more authors will leave. If they were to apply the same move they made on P5—cutting royalty earnings—which is very likely, I think the only path forward will be to focus on other projects…

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I don’t understand this platform AJ for a long time. Featured Authors has invited authors with low sales, rare uploads of new items and a short period of presence on AJ many times. I’ve been on AJ for 8 years, a portfolio of 1712 tracks and have never been in Featured Authors. About Elements, there is a completely unclear and closed topic with the acceptance of authors. So I haven’t expected anything from AJ for a long time and and focused on working with other markets. Probably me the exclusive account and move it to another market. In the future, I will also remove the non-exclusive account.

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You are absolutely right. Your excellent and well-thought-out analysis perfectly describes what many AJ authors, myself included, are going through right now. It’s a shame that Envato has allowed for this situation to exist and continue, and that the AJ community has almost disappeared entirely. It’s no surprise, then, that many authors are leaving for other markets.

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You guys woke up too late…

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I truly regret not moving to othe markets earlier. I only started last year, but I’m already selling more than on AJ. I should have moved out years ago.

Aren’t you part of Elements?

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Nope. Never got the invite. I don’t think I’m quite Elements material. I’m an AJ outcast.

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Be honest if they would invite you, you will accept in a blink of an eye :slight_smile:, maybe I am wrong but so far this is how the story goes.

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I believe that Elements is only for Elite authors.

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I will be honest and say that I probably would accept. I’m already selling via subscriptions on every other site. The reality is that subscriptions are here to stay. It’s good for companies and bad for authors, but that’s not going to change anytime soon. Authors have no leverage in this fight. I’m pretty sure AJ will get shut down eventually, unless they decide to merge it with Elements. Most sites operate like that these days, anyway. I never understood why they would separate subscriptions and the regular markets, when it would have been much easier and efficient to offer both options to buyers under one roof. And much less confusing, too. Maybe I’m just not very business savvy.

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I think I’ve seen non-Elite authors invited to Elements, so I guess not. The rules for getting an invite are very obscure and bendy, anyway.

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This is why Envato has fallen… about subscription mode I don’t really have an issue with it but as a develope,r it is impossible to make a living from it.,

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Thank you for sharing your thoughts and concerns so openly and in such detail. Many authors, myself included, can relate to your feelings about the direction Envato has taken, particularly with the introduction of Elements and its impact on the marketplace. Here are some points to consider:

  1. Transparency Around Invitations: The lack of clarity regarding the invitation process for Elements has indeed been a point of frustration for many authors. Your suggestion to implement an application or submission process (with clear and strict criteria) is a fair one. This approach would make the system more transparent and give all authors, especially long-standing ones, an equal chance to participate.
  2. Long-Time Contributors: It’s disheartening to see long-time contributors, who helped build the marketplace, feel left out of new opportunities. Prioritizing invitations for active and experienced authors could help Envato maintain loyalty and trust within the community.
  3. Client Needs vs. Author Diversity: The explanation that “client needs” dictate the selection process is indeed vague. A more open dialogue or data-driven insights shared with authors might help bridge this gap. For instance, if certain genres or production qualities are in higher demand, Envato could communicate this to help authors align their content.
  4. Future of the Marketplace: Many share your concern that the marketplace is being overshadowed by Elements. While the subscription model aligns with industry trends, it’s critical for Envato to balance both platforms to avoid alienating marketplace authors. Clear strategies to support both Elements and the marketplace would benefit the community as a whole.
  5. Post-Acquisition Concerns: The acquisition by Shutterstock has introduced uncertainty for authors, particularly in terms of royalties and long-term viability. It’s crucial for Envato to address these concerns proactively and maintain open communication about future plans.
  6. Broader Perspective: While Envato has undeniably faced challenges adapting to market trends, your decision to diversify and work with other platforms and exclusive libraries is a wise move. By spreading your efforts, you mitigate the risks associated with relying on a single platform.

Your post highlights critical issues that many authors are experiencing, and discussions like these are essential to fostering a strong and collaborative community. Hopefully, Envato will take note of these concerns and work towards a more inclusive and transparent approach. Thank you for contributing to this important conversation! :blush:

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