Anyone else frustrated by bogus copyright claims for music on YouTube and Facebook? Music creators can claim the whole revenue for a video I’ve worked hard to film and edit - even though I always buy a licence from AudiioJungle for all the music I use. This latest example illustrates what the problem is:
I bought a licence for a track whose name is listed on here as ‘Sport Trap’. But when I post it, Facebook tells me there’s a claim for this track - which is called ‘Ambivalence’. From a creator called Pavel Velchev. But when I come back to AudioJungle to check my licence, there are dozens of tracks listed with the name ‘Sport Trap’. And I have to go through every one in order to find the right one to retrieve my licence. then I have to go back to Facebook, and prove that ‘Ambivalance’ isn’t actually Ambivalence, it’s actually Sport Trap. How can I prove that?
I suspect Envato are telling music creators to change the names of their tracks to make them more searchable. But this causes chaos when the automated content ID kicks in.
I’m losing money over this, and it makes me feel that Envato is unable to protect me as a paying customer.
The name doesn’t matter at all. When buying, stock issues you a license (certificate), which, if desired, you can present on the resource where the claim came from. No license means the track is stolen. If you purchased it, then you have access to your purchases and licenses on the stock.
Why do you say they are bogus? Copyright claims are normal and expected when using copyrighted material. You buy a license precisely to lift those claims.
You don’t have to prove anything. All you have to do is provide your license.
Do you mean that you have bought dozen of tracks that have the same title? Or are you using the search engine and get dozen of results? If that’s the latter, note that you don’t need to use the search engine, you can find all your bought items in the “download” tab of your dashboard.
I’ll just leave this here
I bought a track called ‘Sport Trap’, I have a licence for it. The claim has been issued naming the track as ‘Ambivalence’. The composer changed the name. It’s the same track, with two different names. On Envato, it’s called Sport Trap. On Soundcloud and YouTube, he’s called it Ambivalance. He’s claimed I’ve used a track called Ambivalence. But my licence is for a track called Sport Trap. It’s the same track. But he’s using a different name for the claim. You think that’s OK?
I’m aware of the difference between a copyright claim, and a copyright strike. I’m pointing out that when a composer sells me a licence via envato for a track called ‘sport trap’, then slaps me with a claim for a track called Ambivalence, it makes life very difficult. Because I don’t have a record of using a track called Ambivalence. So I have work out what the name of the track that I used was, then point out that it’s been wrongly identified, then go back and find the licence, and explain that the licence is for a track that sounds exactly the same as Ambivalence, but it wasn’t called ambivalance when I bought it, and here’s the licence for the track that I bought, and you’ll just have to trust me that it’s the same track, because your system thinks I’ve used a track called Ambivalance. Life would me much easier if composers used the same name when they’re putting stuff up on Envato as they do when they’re registering Content ID.
It does not change anything for you. The license you bought is valid, even if the name does not match.
I do agree that it’s unfortunate that the Audiojungle search engine entices authors to use keywords instead of the real title, resulting in those confusing discrepancies. But it should have no impact on the validity of your license.
That’s not what I’m talking about. I corrected you that CID claims are not something bogus/fictitious/fake/false/
yes, but the licence I bought is under the name ‘Sport Trap’. The name he’s using in the claim is ‘abivalence’. I don’ thave a licence that has the name ‘Ambivalance’ on it. Because the composer changed the name when he put it on Envato. My deal is with envato, and I have a licence for ‘Sport Trap’. Claim is over a track called ‘Ambivalence’. It’s the same track - but how can I prove that I’ve got a licence for the track in the claim? I have to tell them it’s been mis-identified, and someone somewhere has to listen to both tracks and agree that it’s the same track, wrongly named. That’s a pain for me, and for Envato.
As I said, you don’t have to prove anything. Just provide the license and that’s it. They will sort it out on their end.
The guy put a claim against me for a track called Ambivalence. The track I used is called Sport Trap which is properly licensed. He’s saying I used a track called Ambivalance. It’s the SAME track. But this gu changed the name when he put it on Envato. So the claim against me for a track called Ambivalence is bogus. Cos i didn’t use a track called Ambivalence, I used and licensed a track called Sport Trap. Now I have to go back and prove that the two tracks are the same, and someone at Envato has to listen to them both in order to release the incorrect claim.
well, thanks for the advice. Do you think that when I send the licence, I should point out that the license is for a track called Sport Trap, whereas the claim is for a track called Ambivalence?
You can, but I don’t think it’s necessary. If any issue should arise, the author knows there are two titles anyway.
The only time having a claim with a different title may be an issue is when the music was not registered by the author, but by fraudsters who registered with a new name. This is why you always want to make sure to license music that is registered with ContentID.
Well, fraudsters was my first thought. That’s why I come to a reliable source like Envato. You’re saying I should just send in the licence, even though it has a different track name to the one in the claim, and they’ll sort it out. But if they’re clever enough to work out it’s the same track, surely they could be clever enough to lable the track when I buy it in a way that makes things clear. EG ‘Sport Trap aka Ambvialence’. Or at least indicate in the licence itself that this track is also known by a different name. This system has to be future-proof.
A buyer of one of my songs had the same problem and it turned out that someone had stolen my song, mixed a drum loop into it and then registered the song under his name with a different title, in other words fraudulent. As in your case, a completely different author and a different title appeared in the claim.
Maybe you or the author of the original search for the track '‘Ambivalence’ from Pavel Velchev.
If it sounds the same or similar, then one or the other is probably fraud. In my case, I informed the Content ID company where I had registered my song and they somehow solved it.