audiojungle earnings reality check

100% right. But EE is a new market with rising number of clients. Every year (month?) new authors are invited. If you are ok with critteria, you can only wait for your turn. Kind of unfair thing.

Every year the pie is bigger and the split is bigger. What worries us the most is the feeling that this pie will not be as big as AJ. Or maybe it will? Probably not. Such a big service like AJ in 2015-2020 is an anomaly.

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I am not sure i am following that. Care to elaborate? If possible, of course.
I am sure i am not the first choice of EE to join, but it would be nice to know if someday when i will try to access my acount, one 404 error pops out instead.

Should I start dancing from joy? Mosquitos are gone, now bees? Why do you take too much attention to my posts? For example, I do not love your optimism too. So what now?

Guys look the reason is very simple. The competition is tit now. Eg artlist came up with a flexible licences and pricing and other audio platforms. Those platforms are running crazy ads and that give them some advantages.

I thing AG got abit to comfortable

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I totally agree with you. Also the review team need some flexibility. Product are to similar on the site.

If there were no 2020 you might probably be dancing from joy, your sales are trending upwards.
But because you had a really good year your gains from 2021 seem like a loss to you. In reality, your trend is going up not down.

If not for attention, why do you post? I’m active in the forums. With that comes that I read posts of someone who is very vocal about his disapproval of everything. Someone who spreads conspiracies about staff willfullingly ruining their own market because they want to buy the company or whatever it is you thought of today. Of a person who even posts in AJ sales threads although he has not a single AJ item.

You have to admit that finding out that 2021 will be your second best year in your 6 year envato history is surprising in that context.

I’m not very optimistic, btw. My 2021 will be the worst year in 7 years by FAR. I have much more to complain about than you. I just don’t resort to conspiracies.

There are many people here in this thread with worrying graphs, but sorry, you are not one of them.

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Well, there is a lot of others who see things in their own way, yet for some reason, I haven`t seen your comments on their thoughts. There are other guys who post their sales threads in here (with 0 tracks in portfolio) just to show that the graphs have the same tendency even if they sell on other markets.

Regarding conspiracies, let’s look at what feature will bring us, and who is right.

Peace

wow conspiratorial paranoia. :alien:

Then obviously you haven’t looked too hard.

I am constantly advocating for being reasonable and judging by numbers and not the feeling someone may get from the forums.

You are just an extreme case, and your theories should not go uncommented.

You can just be as annoyed from my views as I am of yours, but we both post in this forum and have our own look at things, and we both should be allowed to express our thoughts.

If the CEO of envato privately buys the company after driving it into bankruptcy, I will admit you were right :slight_smile:

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Amazing portfolio, covering classic pieces! Nice to see you standing your ground with the prices and making earnings through these times

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I think some realism / pragmatism is needed. It’s not that much about what Envato does, it’s more about the global music market. I haven’t looked into statistics (or if there are some available), but I think it’s more probable that the amount of music being produced and published is growing faster than the need for music. Hence it’s an inevitable race to the bottom where the creator of the music can’t really do anything about that specific problem. Only thing to do is to try and figure out how to find your own small corner in this ever more competitive scene, and the traditional RF corner is becoming more tight every year. Joining EE is one way to buy time, but I don’t see it being any kind of saviour even for the artists who get in.

I personally have sort of given up with the whole RF business and try to make other music related business models work for me well enough. Good luck to everyone!

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I agree with you! It seems like every artist will have to take this step.
Several of my friends and I took this step. We are glad that we did not wait for Elements invitation, because it seems to me that we will never get there.
I think that Elements are a temporary salvation (2-3 years maybe).

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Agree with you here. Not invited too. Seeing how our sales cannibalized by Elements is painful, but more than this is to see lack of protection from Envato. Only one small step is temporary block access to new author, but monthly limits, and all mess with prices not helping to sustain our income. Partially it’s a global overproduction of music, partially it’s crazy steps to sell unlimited assets for super low price. I also did few steps to protect my sales, but this shift is slow and painful, not compensating our losses. Let’s see how things will turn in a near future. What’s more strange is a, lack of new CEO voice, showings his vision. Many months went and no new info about what will change. I assume the effect of this announcement will be like bomb for all of us and so i have no any positive expectation sadly. I see we and Envato have reaally different tasks. For them selling at super low prices and raising profit is main task, because it’s business. But i naively believe in old formula - together we succeed, and believe we still a very very important part of this equation, because we provide a product to sell.

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Agree with you here. Not invited too. Seeing how our sales cannibalized by Elements is painful, but more than this is to see lack of protection from Envato. Only one small step is temporary block access to new author, but monthly limits, and all mess with prices not helping to sustain our income. Partially it’s a global overproduction of music, partially it’s crazy steps to sell unlimited assets for super low price. I also did few steps to protect my sales, but this shift is slow and painful, not compensating our losses. Let’s see how things will turn in a near future. What’s more strange is a, lack of new CEO voice, showings his vision. Many months went and no new info about what will change. I assume the effect of this announcement will be like bomb for all of us and so i have no any positive expectation sadly. I see we and Envato have reaally different tasks. For them selling at super low prices and raising profit is main task, because it’s business. But i naively believe in old formula - together we succeed, and believe we still a very very important part of this equation, because we provide a product to sell.

Well said

I’d like to agree with you, but growth on Elements isn’t as fast as the drop on AJ. Plus, suddenly there’s also a huge drop on EE too. I only hope that it’s a temporary problem. Cuz honestly, I can’t explain that. I’m uploading new items non stop, audience on EE is constantly growing, so I really don’t get it.

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