Agreed…
Hello everyone!
I had to remove some posts, let’s all keep an eye on our Community Guidelines
Also, while you post, please keep in mind that:
In Australia, as in many countries, pricing conduct is strictly regulated under competition laws (also called antitrust laws in other countries) as well as consumer rights laws.
As an author, I agree that discussing prices is a popular subject, but we also have to keep in mind the setting prices responsibly guideline
All the best, everyone!
Like many authors, I also wrote a post on the forum. It was closed, and the reason was that we, I mean the authors, are trying to create a monopoly and kill competition in the market. This is the most obscure explanation for closing a post. I do not understand why Envato made it possible to set the price of the authors. I think this was a mistake. And now we are forced to sell tracks for pennies. But the new discount tool for items is a great thing. The only question remains, why is it needed at this time, because the authors can simply change the price themselves. I think that the market needs to make a minimum price of $ 15, many have already talked about this, and leave a discount tool. And all sides of this dispute remain in profit.
I’m sure after my words a moderator will come and say that Envato has a large marketing team and a financial department and they better know how to sell our items. So they closed my topic :))) But I want to say that the authors also want to earn money, I hope that the financial department and marketers take this fact into account in their calculations. The market is changing, there is too much music on the market and soon this bubble will simply burst. And then there will be nothing to sell. People will simply leave the market. I observe how top authors do not show activity for several months and this leads to different thoughts.
I hope I have not offended anyone.
I wish you all good and positive in this difficult time!
Well. Top authors joined Envato Elements.Some other top authors are selling tracks with 5/15/20 usd.Cose they can afford that.It’s a numbers game after all.Simple math.But you are right after all.I will withdraw my tracks.Good or bad.Doesn’t matter.
Agreed!!!
As the author of VideoHive, I have not used tracks by the authors of dampers in my projects for a long time, I know most of my friends and acquaintances at work too…
If I enter the profile of an author who has a lot of tracks for $ 5, then such authors immediately fall into the personal blacklist
This is not a significant, but still a contribution to the fight against dempers
You suddenly gained my respect for that.
I can not understand the policy of Envato. They have Elements for customers with small budgets. So why not make the Market a more prestigious place by setting higher quality criteria for the tracks and making a fair minimum price tag.
Well.That’s an interesting point of view.I do respect other people’s opinions.Somehow, there is something hilarious in this sentence. The way you see envato elements is pretty much a distorted reality.Elements is a closed enviroment, a safe habitat for handpicked authors.I did not see elements as a solution for low budget customers.The same ‘elite’ authors being alowed to sale their repertoire in elements and non-elements market in the same time.As someone mentioned above, the same elite authors who afford to sell tracks for 5 usd.Thats shameful and low. My 0 0002 c.
Another marketplace had their lowest price for music at $5, but then they increased it and did $15 minimum music price.
If Envato doesn’t do it, then it will be a chaos, we allready are lost in the jungle and if we don’t have a guide to help us then I don’t know. I think also Envato is happier to have this rule because they earn and its a competition for non Elements clients!
Whatever! Its going into a completely close to $0 curve for sales already. Who knows maybe the future will be brighter!
As a user I have no problem in paying 15 or more for a soundtrack and thinking it’s cheap. I don’t think anyone serious can’t afford that or more. I don’t even look the range below that price.
I fully support it!!!
indeed. In economic terms this is called “dumping” or “unloyal competition”.
But the people who live in poor countries (with Internet) don’t care. I don’t wish I’d be in their shoes, if you ask me. For them, 1 dollar can buy you a good bottle of vodka, so you can meet with friends and feel that you are somehow happy. Or maybe 1 dollar can buy the meals for 3 days in other countries.
My country is not poor, but for me 5 dollars can bring a pack of smokes. 10 dollars can bring a nice meal out in the city.
Nevertheless, I will never cut my price really low in order to sell-sell-sell, if I have any respect, any sense of the community or any love for the brothers who work hard to showcase their work. We all gone through a lot of effort to get to be able to create a song, not to get rejected, and waiting for weeks to sell a song because of the **#**#* who “dump” the price in order to gratify their Ego and ignore the other 99.99999% people that are here, doing the same thing, it’s not ok.
I strongly support having a clean competition here, no matter from what countries we are, and I urge Envato to consider having a clean and non-toxic community atmosphere, at least on the Audiojungle market (I don’t know about the others).
Cheers all
Good point.But lets go a bit further.The vast majority of the people who sells for 5 bucks are not from poor countries.Some are featured as elite authors.Great amount of sells and tons of badges.Also, a really great percent of them are also members of ’ elements’ . That is beyond my understanding.So.Lets be more direct. You - 5 bucks elite author - are gaining passive income via elements, then sell your several hundreds of tracks with 5 usd.Because you can! If it sells, why not? THAT is non loyal competition !
Agreed...
Many agencies still remember the 90s when you had to pay 1000s for a custom unique track.
I think it’s okay to put a high price on it, if you guys really go to great lengths to make it. Because customers will still buy it if your music is really suitable for their project.
Big branding agencies, Cosmetics, famous cars, beers still paying tens of thousands of $$$ for exclusive music.I am not quite sure about the rules of the forum in order to put some links in order to prove that.And i meant tens of thousands of $.Of course, we are talking about pitching, rejection fees and weeks of work till the product is as client/agency gives the final ok.
It should be illegal selling 5$ tracks here, I think Audiojungle is better when all track were 19$.
Musicians are not merchants. Audiojungle needs to understand this first. Music is not commercial. Yes, music can be used as a trading tool. But we musicians only produce music and we wait for it to pay off to make a living.
There are also other very serious issues by the way. The actors in audiojungle’s growth are not bestsellers. The main actors are people who try to music from all genres - styles, sometimes trying to create original works. If these people didn’t have different efforts, audiojungle would be the platform with hundreds of thousands of similar music. So what did audiojungle offer for the future to these main actors? Nothing! He even disregarded the efforts of these people by constantly promoting the list of bestsellers. It even established a separate platform called Elements and did not include these people there.
My serious suggestion to everyone; Don’t produce music for audiojungle until audiojungle develops an important policy on these issues, and find an employer that values you. This goes for other media platforms as well. No longer produce music until you find a place that cares for you. They do not consider us musicians as human beings. When we stop producing music, let’s see if those at the top of the list will have any value?