AI Generated music - Abuse of uploading numerous tracks

Envato Authors AudioJungle
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Just my 2 cents !

I completely agree with what has been said here. Audiojungle and the authors need to step up their game. But please, don’t become like those hyper demanding and purist sync library that leaves no room for any errors. Uniqueness is what brings quality. Pure audio quality, in terms of production, is not enough to define what good music is. For me it’s always just a matter of balance. Let us not become stock composers who do compose as if they were composing for initiates/purists /audiophile and musicians. Audiojungle is one the last platform on which you can express your unicity by mistake and experimentation. And this lead also to create more authentic music if it makes sense. I don’t like to follow hyper demanding rules and I don’t like to hard dig stuff like If I was composing the next dark side of the moon. This kind of freedom is what makes me want to be authentic and more “artistic”. The most important things for me is to step up the game to reach those High quality customers who are looking for those really premium stuff, but in the same time we can’t forget the “corporate and wedding” customers. Stock music has to serve any purpose, not only the best one we imagine as composer if it make sense.

Having an authentic / premium music collection that is shown more easily is a first great step and a balanced one. It can only encourage us to work more with this idea of authentic but it’s allow us in the same time to keep to fullfill the “cheap” or let’s say " less challenging" customers demand. And for my sanity it’s sometime a very very good feeling to just fullfill those need and just follow the flow with more basic ideas and it does’nt mean it’s bad or non authentic, it’s just mean that musically speaking I can breathe a little and take a break by remaining productive.

Audio jungle need to re-become the first one, by providing every genre, every quality and for every budget. So it won’t has to stay stuck in only one idealisation. If I think of competitors I always put them in a specifi category of quality / genre. If Audiojungle wants to beat them, it has to follow the “serving” everyone.

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All very nice and I agree with almost everything you have said. However, trying to be realistic, I don’t think it is practicable on Envato, it would require too big a revolution. The only alternative, in my humble opinion, is for Envato to create an ad hoc page or even a completely different site where all the changes we are talking about can be implemented immediately. A page/site that has more creative, more artistic, more ‘authentic’ graphics (and not the corporate one of now) and where the authors themselves can create different profiles (perhaps with other artists and with bands), with authentic and creative profile pictures (and not the corporate brand avatar as we do here). And above all by creating different music, for different needs, for different (‘alternative’?) tastes, where albums or ep’s can also be listened to. Of course, the risk is that with two different pages or sites, authors can get confused and not know where to publish their work.
But of course everyone talks about what they think and want. If by ‘authentic’ Envato means the audio examples @RedOctopus mentioned then, as far as I’m concerned, we’re a long way off the goal.

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Exactly. I don’t even think they’re in the right galaxy. :wink:

Adding ultra cheesy vocals to a stock background isn’t my idea of authentic. But of course, it’s almost a 100% subjective term, so nobody can really be wrong or right… Right?

I don’t believe that the staff really know what they are looking for. I think management are panicking due to lower traffic and growing competition, and are just telling the staff:

“Authentic is trendy, we need more of that, figure it out”.

I think they would need to hire people with the skills of a music supervisor for a quality movie or TV show. People that know real music. Ideally specialists in each genre. Someone who doesn’t know how to play guitar is less likely to spot fake VST guitar for example… But it’s obvious in 2 seconds for a guitarist familiar with guitar music.

I’m pretty sure this track would be hard rejected due to “lacking commercial appeal” here.

That’s Emmy-winning music from Euphoria.

This track would also be rejected due to out-of-time playing and not-so-great production:

I first heard it in a big documentary on Netflix…

Good production and mixing/mastering is not what makes something “authentic” - it’s the feel, the composition, and in many cases uniqueness.

Another word that comes to mind is memorable.

I have been using AudioJungle since 2010, and there are very few tracks that I’ve found that I would actually listen to just to enjoy.

However, here is an example of AJ music that I personally think would be authentic. Not perfect production, but a great track that makes me feel good:

Here is a track that by “pure coincidence” has the same title and category, but in my opinion sounds like a cheap stock track (sorry). Not authentic in other words:

Hard to explain exactly the difference, but if you like electronic music, you probably “just know”. Do you agree with me?

In the Popular Files list, there are not really any “authentic” tracks. Just ultra commercial, pretty sterile tracks that sound like they belong to an After Effects template.

Obviously, that has worked very well for many years, but if you want to pivot to “authentic”, many changes need to be made…

The “funky” stock tracks by top authors in the Popular Files list are about as funky as a square block of concrete. Compare those tracks to a Vulfpeck track and we are not even in the same universe.

One big problem is that a truly authentic track probably takes at least 10 times longer to make than a typical “Lego” VST stock track. There would have to be some really good incentive…

I guess one good first step would be to start accepting unique music “without commercial appeal”, and start rejecting generic clone tracks, even if they are perfectly produced.

Will that happen?

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This is actually an amazing track!

I have a very un-commercial strange track. I’m going to try to upload it here as a test.

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Actually got approved:)

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It won’t happen, everything will remain as it is.