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Other competitors like Yith or Woocommerce sells subscription for each plugin in their store, no a subscription for all their catalogues.
Same happens for other company like Adobe or the ones that selle Android apps (that to offer premium feature require an annual subscription).
Instead of reinventing the wheel, why Envato can’t just copy other working business models? If author are not selling this doesn’t motivate us to update the software keeping it efficient and including new feature. What’s the point of this business?
It’s an incredibly bad month. Envato is collapsing. A collapse doesn’t help anyone. Authors should talk about new ideas and platforms that are income fair and relevant to today’s conditions.
so far. The first week of the month was good. Then sales completely almost stopped for me after
Same for me. First week ok, suddenly almost stopped
maybe they makerting
Personally, I think it has more to do with the economy and changes in the stock industry in general. My sales are down significantly on Elements (50% since January) AND all the other platforms I sell on. To me, Envato and other platforms are like real estate brokers for digital content. When the housing market skyrockets or crashes, we don’t expect the real estate brokers to fix it. Usually they suffer or profit right alongside the sellers.
What’s the point of the discussion here when your no one cares about what you suggest to improve yours and the whole market situation. I started this thread Sales almost stopped from last 4-5 days in 2017 and have quite a lot discussion including some big sellers but eventually all left the thread silent as most of them may have moved on like me.
A good manager with the right policies and methods makes a company successful, but a bad manager causes it to fail. Therefore, the policies of a group play a big role in its success or failure.
In my opinion, Envato Elements for ThemeForest and CodeCanyon products is a very wrong policy that has destroyed the authors’ income. I have provided more details in this post:
https://forums.envato.com/t/envato-elements-perfect-for-users-terrible-for-authors/496744/12
Analyzing the collapsing curve in views, I agree with you: keeping this path, I think the new governance could shut down the marketplace (at least as we know it).
@imithemes I participated your thread and in all these years the funniest thing has been realizing (almost) no one really wants to work to change its situation.
Remember my “cannot-be-named-here” platform tracking licenses? It literally saved my wallet, but zero authors joint.
2 years and 10k+ customers later, it is the cornerstone of my the shop solution I built to sell my licenses.
If I would release it for any WP dev, do you think anyone here would step in and work instead of complaining on a forum of a company that has been sold…?
I believe your platform is large enough and has been invested in systematically, so I think many authors will join. Of course, at the beginning, it may not be on par with Envato, but it should have potential.
I think Envato Market can still reach its full potential again. One idea is to offer only ‘lite’ versions of themes, plugins, or code on Elements, with fewer features. If users want more advanced features and support, they can buy the full version from Envato Market. Another suggestion is to show banners for CodeCanyon and ThemeForest on Elements, just like how Elements banners are shown on CodeCanyon and ThemeForest. Or, they could remove the Elements banners from those sites.
If Envato wants authors to do marketing, the commission for sales made through our links should be much lower, or even zero. Adding support for Google conversion tags and Facebook pixels would also help us run paid ads better.
There are many ways to improve the platform—they just need to meet with top authors to hear their ideas and feedback.
Where is this platform I will ioin 100%?
What is it? PM if not possible to share in public, if you don’t mind.
@imithemes
Around 2017, it wasn’t related to Elements, it was just sale down ( happens time to time ) and if it continued, you should’ve created more items. Right now, the sale is related to traffic and it’s being redirect to Elements. Different discussions.
Yep, I created the platform in 2022
To be totally clear: IT IS NOT A MARKETPLACE.
It’s an “hub” doing what Envato never did: forcing customers to adhere Codecanyon/Themeforest rules (plus useful marketing tools).
I will NEVER force anyone leaving Envato. On the contrary, as I always said, this would bring cash to Envato wallet. I was forced to leave the exclusivity to sell my own licenses, but I will stay on the marketplae as long as it will exist.
I built it to help my business and to be useful to others. Clearly there’s a huge work behind, it is not for free.
Since I was prevented to talk about the project directly, I think is better to create a dedicated thread on Slack where I can clearly explain how it works and you can pose questions:
SLACK CHANNEL » (link removed)
It’s no surprise that most of the purchase comes from previous buyers, you can see those details once you create your own licensing system and track the emails.
The idea has been discussed and offered lots of time, one time license is not gonna be a solution for developers and the solution would be a subscription model while they could use as long as they’re subscribed to the model ( Like Adobe now ). Getting paid for support ( 6 months ) for few bucks is not a good idea, as well.
Are you offering a subscription model or is it just trial offer? The trial offer can be managed for free by using WordPress.org while you’re limiting the features. ( even with exclusivity a Envato ) - would also help getting more traffic.
Which part of “is not a markeplace” is not clear…?
I do not offer anything but a “hub” to check your licenses data and force your customers to adhere rules in order to use your product.
I am not against Envato nor want to replace it. I do not take any commission out of your sales. The initial idea born to boost my incomes.
Being a hub, it can manage whatever license (eg. your own shop). For example I chose to adopt the yearly subscription way (the industry standard nowadays).
However I do not want to infringe any rule talking about it here, and we are totally offf-topic. There’s the Slack channel (link removed) if you want to ask.
Which part of my comment sounds like you think I though it’s a marketplace?
Technically, sharing a link to a private channel and asking people to join there may be already infringe the forum rules.
The “are you offering a subscription model” refers to a marketplace, not a tool like mine.
Honestly several people asked for infos and that channel was the only way to communicate (since envato banned my tool name and cannot open threads about it).
You can keep ignoring everything as you always done. I do this mainly to help others, nothing changes to me if moderators will delete my posts
You say it’s not marketplace, it’s for “helping” but you charge for fee. It’s “soft” marketing when you request payment. If you really want to help, create a plugin and upload to WordPress.Org so everyone can use it.
No offense but it sounds to me you’re taking advantage of the situation to promote your item/system to charge authors who’s not willing to prepare their system.
There’s already “Freemius” doing the same/similar thing you’re doing as well as there’re FREE plugins at WordPress.Org for the themes/plugins you can just integrate. ( Could upgrade the plugin lifetime for 50$ if you need more features )