First 3 songs HARD rejected, yet top AJ producers think they're fine??!?

Been with AJ for 3 years now. Just created a new account with a friend, uploaded our first 5 tracks and 3 of them were just hard rejected, with no reason nor guidance given.

I ran them by a few fellow AJ producers, including a TOP TIER AJ producer, and they all agree the songs are fine.

Is this normal? Are AJ editors overwhelmed lately and just knee-jerk hitting the reject button? Or is it that none of our submissions contain ukulele? Any ideas are appreciated!

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Hello! Please, put a links to itā€™s songs and the AJ authors can give you their opinions (advices).

These three were hard-rejected, no clue as to why. Any ideas? Please be honest.

Hey, I took a listen to all three tracks. Best advice i can give from my ears is that:

First track - it sounds like the keys are off time with the beat/bass at certain points, like the bass note hits after the keys when it sounds like they should be hitting at the same time. This makes it sound offbeat.

Second track - I would say this has limited usability. Something i struggled with when i started on Audiojungle was to stop making music that is more what i want to listen to and start making music that the market want to buy. For sports and training videos(based on the name of your track) i didnā€™t expect to hear this kind of track. That doesnt have to be a bad thing at all but you have to think about how usable your track is for potential buyers.

Third track - This one is your best one towards AudioJungle market, Iā€™m not entirely sure why this one would be hard rejected myself but it could be that itā€™s quite complex piano going on. If you listen to some top sold tracks, you will notice they all have one thing in common, they all sound quite simple. Simple sounding music is a lot easier for buyers to drag and drop and use but they could be my only critique on this one.

I hope some of this is helpful in some way! try not to take hard rejections to heart, you will get there :slight_smile:

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sometimes it happens )))

I agree at some point with @AaronWildeMusic, but I really think that these tracks are cool , if you ask me the weakest one is first track, secound track is freaking awesome , itā€™s a hit , I donā€™t know why would they reject this type of track , it has commercial value, although I think that ā€˜ā€˜Sport and Training Goalsā€™ā€™ is now the name of that track :slight_smile:
Third track is very nice too , I donā€™t wanna think that Iā€™m limited to C,G,a,F , I think itā€™s awesome that you have souch nice chord progression ! You know how to mix your tracks, and thatā€™s a big thing. Forget about this tracks man , donā€™t get upset , you know how to play, you know how to mix, just keep writing stuff and everything will be cool !
Wish you the best dude !

Iā€™ve been involved in production music for a very long time. I have been a production music library composer, music supervisor and composer recruiter, a music library screener, ran an online radio service, and I operated an artist promotion service. Iā€™m very familiar with how selections and edits are made for serious productions and Iā€™m pretty sure Iā€™d be able to find uses for your music as a music supervisor. I think Iā€™ve had clients that would like it. But AJ and your basic ā€œthrow up the music and waitā€ royalty free music libraries probably would not.

AJ is a typical micro-stock music ā€œmarketplaceā€, not a real music library. They generally stick to a pretty narrow path of what they believe works based on their clientsā€™ buying patterns. The problem is that AJā€™s market is not diverse and tends to just grab something after a quick search or directly from the top sellerā€™s list. Itā€™s largely made up of small corporate video producers. As a generalized statement that doesnā€™t apply to every corporate video producer, but probably to most coming here, they are working with very limited budgets, short deadlines and cookie cutter video productions that often are not very creative. The customers here are usually not people tasked with just finding and licensing music, as would be a music supervisor. Theyā€™re people wearing multiple hats with music just being a collateral duty. So they often are not that familiar with the resources available to find the best music or real trends that you would find outside of micro-stock and donā€™t have the money available anyway. They tend to generate ā€œmore of the sameā€. Do they have other types of buyers here? Probably, but definitely not in large numbers. Those seeking real quality arenā€™t coming here and those working major productions usually have working relationships with the larger production music libraries. They would never consider music from AJ. Those are your more creative producers and production companies, music supervisors, etc. They dedicate the time to find what works best and their budgets are sufficient to afford much higher quality.

Regarding your songs, rather than provide a subjective critique, I know that they could work for various types of productions and it is very possible that they would be accepted by some production music libraries out there. The one with what I think is the least potential in my experience is the third one. Mid-sized and above production music libraries, unlike micro-stocks, work more directly with clients and actively pitch individual songs to them based on their needs. They donā€™t rely on just throwing up ā€œthe usual suspectsā€ and waiting for people to find something on the site. This allows them to have a much more diverse catalog of music for a more diverse client base and higher rates that do not bundle performance royalties. Personally, I would not waste any more time submitting to AJ because while your music might not be a good fit for the small time corporate video micro-stock market, I think you could find many, much more profitable uses and do much better than AJ. I believe thatā€™s true for many composers here and suspect theyā€™re here being exploited for low rates without performance royalties and composing mediocre ā€œcorporate video tunesā€ because they arenā€™t aware of the real opportunities that exist for them.

My only suggestion regarding these songs is that I suspect there is at least some construction kit / loop library use on the second song. While some construction kit and loop library content providers allow music library use with permission, you want to stay away from that when approaching most production music libraries. Even if not familiar with the construction kit or loop being used, they are very likely to know when something probably came from a construction kit or sample loop library. Even if it doesnā€™t, they will reject it if the music appears to be based mostly on what they believe to be royalty free samples. And in situations where the library auditions composers, as is the case with the better libraries, you run the risk of being shut out entirely. I have used instrumental loops from construction kits as ā€œplace holderā€ parts for inspiration while composing, but I later replace those parts with a variation of the loop that I actually play and never use more than one or two parts from the same kit in the same song.

My advice to all composers with good music here is that if you havenā€™t done research on this, start really exploring the markets outside of micro-stock and small online royalty free ā€œlibrariesā€. You will have to study the content of major library catalogs, make personal connections in the industry, and be ready to accept many rejections without being discouraged. You can keep submitting to these micro-stocks if you want a few bucks here and there while trying to move up, but donā€™t focus too much on this market because youā€™ll possibly end up getting caught up in the trap of being exploited and composing for a lower standard music market.

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Thank You OvationMusic

Solemn Credits sounds great.
Its rejection is a real head-scratcher.

My opinion is this:
In the first song I thought that the sound of the piano is not equalized (some frequency cut ear), but for that I would give a maximum soft reject.
The second song as it sounds like in mono
Third song the same as in first song
In general, it is strange that you got a hard reject

Thank you very much, itā€™s a deep exploration of self-respect.

I got some hard rejected tracks as well which i thought they were fine in production and mixing.
But i came to a conclusion that AJ only approves specific genres and sounds.
Thatā€™s why we are seeing those similar sounding tracks. So I think we have to accept that and keep on moving in that direction. Obviously it leads to some other problems. Some people are complaining about those similar sounding tracks.
But i guess thatā€™s what it is.

This is beautiful music. I like it. All sounds good for me there. Keep up working and researching. If you got reject on AJ it doesnā€™t always mean that your music bad produced or bad composed. Sometimes it simply means that content is not in ā€œAudioJungle Styleā€. There are certain trends here and if music sounds a bit unusual for this trends it might be rejected. Keep well and Good luck!