Maybe @BenLeong or @KingDog can shed a light on this. I see the Enterprise plan covers broadcast and film usages, among many others. This was out of the deal originally and I’m not sure when this extended plan was introduced or if any author was consulted. Aside from that, the terms of this type of suscription are quite vague and the price and additional information is disclosed to clients only, not authors.
The following 2 lines are the only info available: With Envato Enterprise, you get a worldwide perpetual license that covers all of your projects. This includes usage across all web, digital, social, print, broadcast TV, film, radio, OTT platforms, and merchandising.
So, my question is, is there somewhere we can inform ourselves about how the author’s income and shares are handled when items are downloaded from an Enterprise customer?
Nice. Very Envato-ish. We earn half but it’s somehow beneficial to us. BTW, I now remember I read that post but I was not part of Elements so I didn’t pay much attention.
Hi @WormwoodMusic. There is no standard template for an Enterprise subscription - all of those are tailored to individual customers, and involve some combination of multiple seats, indemnity cover and different usage rights compared to the Individual and Teams subscriptions.
There is a dedicated Enterprise sales team that handles these, which is the reason for the different subscriber share - it’s considerably more expensive to acquire and retain those customers, but their subscription costs are also much higher. Even with the different author rate, Enterprise customers still contribute far more to the pool of author earnings than any other customer type. The pricing difference is more like the difference between Standard and Broadcast license sales on AudioJungle, for example.
Currently, there’s no way for the authors to know to know what percentage of Enterprise licenses we are having or on what items, right? Is there a plan to implement such feature?
Thanks! It’s taken my family weeks to get over the current bout of illness.
No plans that I know of at the moment: from an Author Earnings perspective, it’s all processed through the same system, just with the Elements customers contributing a lot more money to the pool. There are lots of different price points (student subscriptions, customers who came in with a discounted rate for their first billing period, teams subscribers) - all of them have their revenue split between the items that they license, and it’s then aggregated into the monthly payment system.
So @BenLeong could you please confirm that the following statement is correct:
The license for Envato Enterprise clients allow the broadcast use of music available on Elements. Correct? Haven’t heard about it before, which surprises me a lot. That’s pretty important info while some of us verify legality broadcast use (by checking sold licenses on AJ).
However, If Enterprise clients can use music in broadcast, that’s great. I even support adding broadcast use even to Elements since AudioJungle isn’t any longer a strong (or even average) player in the broadcast industry and our PRO royalties will become much smaller in the future. Especially that AI will probably push us back in the social media music market as well. Now it’s the time when we can regain the pro market with introducing authentic music and allowing broadcast use. IMHO that’s a big chance for us which will significantly increase our PRO royalties.
This year I received PRO royalties which are equivalent of 20 years of my current AudioJungle earniengs. And that’s only for AJ broadcast licenses sold in 2017-2022 years. Just imagine what would happen if video creators started using Elements en masse in broadcast.
I also see the potential of this but on the other hand, as far as I know, we have no way to know when one of our tracks is downloaded via Enterprise License or Regular, nor we get any info about the buyer. When a Broadcast License was purchased through the markets we could fairly easily contact the customer and remind them to fill the cue sheets and provide the info they might need. Right now, correct me if I’m wrong, we depend entirely on the customer knowledge of this process and the will to do it.
Also, and excuse me if this is beyond obvious, in Elements, how does a customer gets our PRO, IPI and ISWC? I don’t see it anywhere in the tracks description and details.
Which all customers open and read of course, because they already know that this is where they can get this info… right?
Envato unilaterally decided to offer perpetual broadcast rights and give you a preposterous and unacceptable 25% rate (for your own work, not theirs. 25% for your own work!!!). And yet they refuse to implement basic functionally that are crucial for authors such as displaying PRO info.
I understand the idea of giving up on frontend revenue in the hope to maximize backend royalties. But if there is no guaranty to collect on those backend royalties, you end up with nothing. That’s a terrible situation for us, and I don’t get the eagerness to renounce our earnings like that.
Meanwhile Envato is maximaizing profit and they know it’s better to get paid upfront… so much so that they rather take 75% than 50% on those upfront earnings. Since authors seem to be ok with it, why not?
Awesome, congrats! That’s for a single license. But have you seen a significant increase in PRO royalties since you’ve joined Elements (or rather since they added broadcast to their Enterprise accounts)? How can you be sure to collect all that you should get, when you have no way of knowing when the music is used for broadcasts? Apart from having a paid plan with Tunesat, which is beyond the means of most of us, how can we be sure?
True. The PRO info should be in the license and on the Elements site.
Unfortunately true. Standard rate of publishers in the music industry is 50%.
Ahhh sorry, it wasn’t only for one single license but for many, I wrote it wrong. I have edited my post, sorry for a confusion.
Yes, but I thought it’s not because of Elements. It’s because PROs started to collect royalties more efficiently and because PRO cash flow needs time. But now I think it may be in some part effect of adding audio to Enterprise? I doubt if this made the scale, but who knows. Yep, we have a veeeery limited knowledge about who, when and how used our music. Usually we can’t even detect if it was legal or not. That’s why it’s surprising that Envato did not inform us about adding broadcast use to Enterprise.
