Changes To How Authors Receive Earnings Payouts From Envato

I’m so sorry to say this, but finally, this is a fair step for fair authors. :kissing_heart:

I’m so tired to fight as single author against “author” with a team of 20 people behind.

I am an author who manages by herself the code, the support, the hosting, everything… by myself since 2013. And I am so tired to see that an “autho” who is, in fact, an entire company with 20 employees, has a similar item like mine …and we are, you know…“competition”

It wasn’t a fair competition. Envato was no for that.

Envato was not for companies. Envato was, from the beginning, for people like me, developers who left their corporate life, for making money at home, while trying to balance the work with a familiy life.

And now? Look at the market. An author who is in fact a company with 20-100 employees behind.

I’m not saying it’s bad, I’m only saying this is not Envato was built for.

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It’s quite the opposite. Believe me, there is no bad news for “author” with a team of 20 people behind because in most cases these are employees for hire, not other 20 authors.

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Do you think Avada author has 30+ different withdrawals each month? :slight_smile:

You are completely missing the point of split withdrawals here. Usually, split withdrawals were for developer and designer :slight_smile: Not for support staff! I think 70% of authors who use split withdrawals are designer and coder team.

And in the end, why do you think this will benefit you? For us it’s very similar, just a few more administration steps after withdrawals, so I really don’t get your post!

I guess now it will be fair competition :slight_smile:

p.s. Envato was built for: You do the creative we do the rest, but this was back in 2012!

p.s.s. Now the new slogan is: You do the creative, we take the profit :wink:

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You won’t get paid in that example… you’ll get paid in the following month (or the month after that) when your balance is above $500. As for changing your bank details, there’s nothing in the original post about not being able to, so there’s no reason why you shouldn’t be able to do that.

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I have not make any sales can I get paid

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If you have a sufficient balance from referral payments. But otherwise, no… meeting the minimum withdrawal amounts is usually dependant on getting sales.

If you’ve read the FAQ’s and contacted Payoneer… and you’re still not getting any help, then that’s fair enough. If you’ve not read the FAQ’s or contacted Payoneer (or even Envato support), then that seems a bit of an extreme decision to throw away your Envato account because you don’t want to put in a bit of effort to find the answer to your question. But still… it’s your choice, as you say!

It’s probably not the most efficient way for you to enable change, and express your dissatisfaction at a lack of easy to find instructions on how to change Payoneer accounts. Writing to support to express your dissatisfaction at a lack of easy to find instructions on how to change Payoneer accounts (which will probably result in instructions on how to change Payoneer accounts, or at least a recommendation to contact Payoneer) would probably be the best course of action.

Yes.

contact Payoneer either via their Live Chat or via Skype for example (1-800 number is credit-free to call).
I managed via LIve Chat.

Hi there,

Where can I change my Payoneer account in Audiojungle interface? I used my friend’s account and now according to your new policy I have to use my own. But I can’t find where I can change it. Please, help!

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You Need To Contact Payoneer And Envato Support To Unlink Your Current Payoneer Account.

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Please, don’t enforce automated payouts, for SWIFT the transfer cost is $50, so from $500 that’s 10%.
By only withdrawing once every 4 months we can save $200, no reason to make the banks rich…

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Not to be mean, but nowhere on the website it says that you can’t work in teams. Also, competition is good and that’s how any market stays healthy. No one forces you to work alone and also, you can work alone while still creating good products and competing with other larger teams. Also, you got the whole point wrong, this feature mostly affects small teams or lone authors whose earnings are little. It forces you to withdraw monthly so you have to pay the withdrawal taxes even though you could save money by saving a few months before withdrawing.

PS: I am also a one-man-team and have no issues with others working in teams or as a company and creating products for the Envato marketplaces.

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50$ per month for transaction fees == 600$ a year!! Very very bad :-1: :-1:

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Is it a problem if there is “John” in Envato account and “Jon” in Payoneer account if the rest of information is the same? In my situation i have “Pavel” in Envato account and “Pavlo” in my Payoneer account and both is actually correct (i had two variations in my documents before 2016)?

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We have to update these data from March 1 to March 31.

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I’m honestly amazed from the backlash this post is getting. You guys do realize that these rules were added almost 2 years ago, and now they are just getting enforced.

1. ENVATO IS CHANGING EVERYTHING
Uhm, nope. The rules were the same, this was in the TOS. Now they just added a NEW rule which says " withdrawals will be automatic, so no one will ever complain that they forgot.

2. THIS WILL KILL PARTNERSHIPS!!!

Why?
PayPal to PayPal - COST = 0
Payoneer to Payoneer - Absolutely Free.
Swift to Swift - well, Payoneer is free. Why do you want to transfer using Swift? It’s not available? No worries. Travel. If you can send 50.000$ via swift and you don’t want to pay 2500$ in taxes, plane tickets are cheap. Go on a holiday and make a cash transaction with a contract.

Therefore, all the fuss in this thread is over the fact that Envato will now automatically send you the money so you no longer forget to the name and details you’ve added in your account?

I’m really, really struggling to see why there is so much scandal over this. Envato sends you 50.000 you send 25.000 to you partner. The fact that Payoneer or PayPal will ask for a tone of verification for large amounts stands in the case of partnerships AND individual authors. Therefore, the entire scandal here is pointless.

Envato just added automatic withdrawals. Absolutely nothing else has changed.

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We’re amazed that you didn’t see the same backlash in the original announcement post

If fact the uproar was so big that @collis himself had to provide (temporal) solution for split withdrawals:

You’re kidding, right? Paypal has huge fees to make transactions from one account to other that ranges from 3.9% to 5.4% of everything you transfer depending the country. The only way it doesn’t cost is if you transfer from USA accounts to other USA account

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Not kidding, but I just noticed it works only for the US - https://www.paypal.com/us/selfhelp/article/what-are-the-fees-for-paypal-accounts-faq690

Therefore, Payoneer, and from what I see on their website…

Payoneer doesn't block any specific country, however as a US based company we are required to follow strict rules, laws and regulations.

The US Office of Foreign Assets Control does enforce economic and trade sanctions on certain countries.

The list is of course subject to change, but Payoneer does its best to offer services to every country, unless prohibited by laws and regulations.

Problem solved. Get Payoneer, withdraw to Payoneer, send it for free to your partner, create an invoice that is a deductible for company expenses, and voila. There you have it.

If Envato would have said. We’re only using swift and nothing else, I would have understood all the fuss, but in this situation, everyone is aggravated for absolutely no reason.

Got a partner? Great! Get Payoneer! Split earnings directly from Payoneer. So, where’s the problem? What did Envato kill? Absolutely nothing! A lot of drama for no reason! :slight_smile:

What?!

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