Author-Driven Pricing Coming to All GraphicRiver

no no
as i understood
when you set $6 +1 buyer fee = item price $7
so you will take $6 x your percent = earn
may be it same price but with another way

Is there a minimal or maximal price for an item?

im worried if we can set the price item, some authors will compete determine the lowest price for his item in order to get the most salesā€¦

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iā€™m with you it suppose to be min price for each item

Following on from Collisā€™ answer to clarify timing of changes:

  • We switched the Fonts category to author-driven pricing back in April this year
  • We then expanded it to Add-ons and Presentations in July
  • Next week, weā€™ll roll it out to all of GraphicRiver
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Please Tell administration if they left the authors set prices without specifying a minimum and maximum of the item price
There will be chaos, many authors will have set their prices do not fit item quality in order to sell more
This will lead to the collapse of the market for such works.
and work as a Graphic designer will be without value.
authors will go to hell.
example: BCs now its price $5 , some authors may set $3 + $1 = $4 to sell more it force us to decrease price too for same items.

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Iā€™m excited that you guys are taking this approach to pricing! I know itā€™s easy to think that people will just gauge pricing and sell things really cheap. However, if you put out quality work, buyers will pay extra for it.

Too bad idea!

Lower prices prevail :soon: lower quality :soon: loss users

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epicly bad indeed, what it all amounts to saying is that if a few guys do not play the game as it should be played, they will end up getting all the sales just out of making prices collapse once again. This is already a volume based platform and most of us make not good enough money, all what is resulting in is having a lot of use guys getting even less, so what is the good news?

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no this is even worth than this ā€¦ who ever will be able to kill these other out of playing an individualistic gale! what a strange notion of community this is! another very bad news, once again, indeed the only that was cool is the new project that they dealt with in another thread. the only problem is that if they do not pick u, which is likely to happen (in particular if u are not lacing peopleā€™s boots here) then this will end up in having only bad news all the time!

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u are dreaming Nathan, sorry to say just that ā€¦ take a look at what 's going on out there, some people seem not to consider that our items are low enough yet (when they are reduced to the price of a single coffee or drink in some cities of the world) and they will try to download them for free in some cheating websites (and they are numerous!). In other words, what do u think is going to happen with self pricing and u potentially pushing up your prices?! well, i tell you in most cases, uā€™ll sell less ā€¦ many customers will favor the cheap items rather than your more expensive one, thatā€™s a fact! Besides, all buyers are not authors themselves and what do u think people will be thinking of ? saving money! I have a 13 years long experience in a small agency and i can tell you how aggressive some people maybe when it comes to getting lower prices at all cost ā€¦ . They will have no problem disparaging your work, trying to moan and so on (if you want i can shaw well documented story about those sorts of things, i can share with u).

They talk about a community here , but whereā€™s the notion of it in all this pricing policy?! they put people in uneven positions right from the beginning! a guy in a country with no tax , with not so much or not to much of a high living cost or from a country with a low currency will be potentially able to sell as low as u can imagine and ā€œkill the marketā€, leaving crumbs to all the others. Try to imagine the combined effects of this and the over saturated community getting larger everyday and uā€™ll see war the potential benefit will be all about

i am going to tell u a story , last time i went to my dashboard, i saw u are ranked 1148th in graphicriver , which is not so bad as regard to the huge number of people being there ā€¦ and guess how much money do i make weekly? well roughly 30 bucks / week , in other words, no matter where u go, this is just ā€œpocket moneyā€ (i can buy fruit for the week with this) and thatā€™s still just gains here , not including anything else like taxes

i am sad today just that but this is just another blow to authors here, period

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it should be like this, to make sure that ā€œcompetitionā€ between guys is fair, but no matter what, this is not a problem for envato, they earn on anything transaction / sale being made here ā€¦ so out of the huge volume, maybe even be beneficial! for authors thatā€™s a different story again, we are more lily to have small gains getting lower again as if some guys are unfair enough to play the game as it should be , it will be a disaster!

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yeah u are right or stop that exclusive things so that some guys can make a bit revenue all the same

thatā€™s exactly how many people feel about t , u are right

besides the figure stat u showed ae only for exclusive authors, try to imagine for those who opted for non exclusive ā€¦

On the subject of undermining the marketplaceā€¦ The fixed base pricing is such an abstract scenario, we were going to ask the same question, but when you think about it (for like a nano-second). It is in our professional opinion (whether or not there will be a fixed base) that no respectful author is going to price their items significantly any lower than they currently are, unlike Envato Studio, we are not offering arbitrary services here, with arbitrary time framesā€¦ it will come down to what a buyer is actually looking for at the time in their search and the quality of the items they are comparing.

Pricing shouldnā€™t have any real significance, unless you are comparing apples with applesā€¦ and If I have two apples in front of me and one is rotten and one is ripe and the rotten one is $1 and the ripe one is $3, I donā€™t care what the rotten appleā€™s price is anywayā€¦ because itā€™s rotten. On the flip-side if the rotten apple is $3 and the ripe apple is $1 the scenario is inherently in favour for both Buyer & Author.
There are already Authorā€™s here with superior items and higher prices, that significantly outsell other comparable items in their category which are set at lower pricesā€¦ so this contradicts the entire notion.

Authorā€™s should be more concerned about continually improving the quality and standards of their items, and the relevance these items have in the marketplace.

correct me if Iā€™m wrong, but

before:

list price 4, so I earn 2.08 per sale (52% of 4)

64% + 36% US buyers = 100%. 100 sales x 2.08 = 208 USD

author driven price + -30% from US sales

list price 5, so I earn 2.6 (65% of 4) per sale from non US buyers and 0.78 (2.6 x 0.3) from US buyers

64 x 2.6 + 36 x 0.78 = 194.48 USD

This means I will increase list price and buyers will pay an extra dollar for every item while for every 100 sales, I will lose 13.5 dollars. :grinning:

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There are no minimum or maximum limits on what an author can set their item price to. To date, weā€™ve been monitoring the Fonts, Add-ons and Presentations categories and over the months these categories have seen different types of behaviour (for instance one category the average sale price went up, and in another it went down), but the total change to average sale price has been overall minor in either direction. Itā€™s up to authors to choose their general approach to selling their items, presenting them, marketing them, and now on GraphicRiver, pricing them.

no no no no
not good idea "Itā€™s up to authors to choose their general approach to selling their
items, presenting them, marketing them, and now on GraphicRiver, pricing
them."
when i can do all these steps why i need to Graphicriver ?
as i can present my items, marketing , set prices , so it better for me to go out of Envato and launch my own site and selling items it will be 100% earning

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i definitely understand what u are trying to explain but as for me i do not share your opinion. I think thatā€™s a dangerous game to let guys decide of what they are willing to pricing wise. Letā€™s face it , if in a general way, guys here are professional enough to refuse to do just that and most of would not stoop into underpricing their items , do u believe that all guys would really mind not playing the game the right way? (let me remind you that some guys copy the works of some others, some even post some things that they have downloaded somewhere and so on ā€¦ so u can see all sorts of ugly things happening here sometimes and i personally do not believe that all is going to white all the way and it will be immaculated happiness with self pricing for that matter, i ma not so much of a dreamer). if u think that individualistic behaviors are not going to be showed in the process, then , i think that this is just speculating, and in a professional environment, in my view, thereā€™s no space for speculating. In the real life , troubles and disappointment are coming way more easily then the other things.

well for me , when it comes to this as a global concept, u are basically right the problem is that u fail to take into account that , either all buyers do not know what a good job actually is (and they prove it, browse around and uā€™ll see pretty poor items getting sometimes a huge number of sales) and that, otherwise, i can assure you that with two lookalike equivalent quality items , most of buyers will opt for the one which is cheaper in the great majority of cases.

u were also referring to envato studio , but eā€™s face it, u are underlining the problems that self pricing is causing. If all guys were fair, then, no matter what, they would be all closed from one another and differences would not be so wild as they are at this time ā€¦ . Having a world wide platform like this has contributed to make prices go down and the studio is a good example of this indeed. the last time i visited there , there some guys offering services for as low 29$. Please tell me how many guys can get to rival with that ? either this is a real part time thing and u just do this on free time and u do not care of much time working on it and consider only the money, or u are doing it to make a real living ,and u have to make tens of projects monthly to make a decent salary out it ā€¦ for me all is super realistic.

i am also sorry to completely disagree with you , because we are all concerned about the quality of our items and i assume that most of us are always trying to improve and bring better things to the table , but take a look at whatā€™s happening. At this time, u work harder and harder and have most of your times overflowed but the huge flow of submissions and in the end, item by item , u get a miserable money, so basically you are not even benefiting the time that u spend. This is what happens for tons of us!

i will also tell you buddy, donā€™t take a few exceptions for the general body of guys, if u are Sevenstyles, if u are Industrykidz or any of the few guyson top of the mountain here , then u can have higher prices and be successful, if u are not any of them, u are struggling to sell and your earnings are low, thatsā€™ what reality is all about

u have forgotten that u ask have to hunt for cheaters who give your items for free download ā€¦ because this is your duty too!