You canât purchase Envato hosting without a theme, so either the hosting is attached to the theme or the theme is attached to the hosting. However, this is another question, which does not need answering since themes on Envato Hosted already accepted the conditions.
Most of our customers are people setting up websites for clients. I donât know if itâs the case for others as well.
I think that most of you here, miss completely the point. The lifetime value of a client is been increased. It is 2$ / month extra, that means, 24$ extra. 54+24, which will also allow authors to sell their extra Support Option, if they want.
Also, it increase the custom LTV to Envato, which means, if you are a rockstar and you know how to do it, you will earn more than others, if you manage to convert the client to multiple payuts, because most will go ahead and buy a second theme for their web site and use it to update the site.
Consider that a gift, it is clear that only the strong will survive, but when you are a business, you have to learn how to pivot and adapt, so you can earn more.
Not may, that is what Envato is doing, for every single client, because the License is registered to users, if user wants to transfer away for his hosting.
Jumping in to do give some general clarifications and answers.
Our man @SpaceStockFootage pulled out his red pen and went to town on the landing page I took them to the Envato Hosted Team, their reply:
As weâve noted above, this is a soft launch thatâs still very much in the early stages. We have a lot of learning to do around all aspects of Envato Hosted and weâre excited to work with our initial group of authors and internal product teams on the best flow, ui, ux and everything in between.
Youâve brought up some good insights and these are all things weâre hoping to learn and test and gain data about as we move Hosted forward. Keep the insights and experience coming!
At this stage weâre aiming to run some experiments and establish a fair and scalable model for how Hosted will operate. Once weâre through this phase, weâll look to invite more and more people to be a part of the program. When we do scale, weâll be looking far more closely at the quality of an authorâs products than the amount of them that theyâve happened to sell.
Weâve partnered with a company to do the hosting
Under the current model, Envato Hosted is taking care of theme and hosting support. Weâll be working with authors to ensure we understand their themes and ensure they are getting feedback about their themes. This means authors can spend less time on support and more time developing great new features and products. Weâve built a new team for this model who have some serious WordPress know-how.
We want to give our clientâs full control of their hosting, with the caveat this is still managed WordPress so we fully manage and protect WordPress itself. Our team ensures that WordPress is working 24/7, and handle the entire core upgrade process. A user receives sFTP access after your third payment. Client access to backup and a staging system is coming in the next few weeks, and PHPMyAdmin will follow after that
Honestly, itâs too early to tell. Thereâs some interesting ideas here, but weâre still learning how this model is going to operate, but weâre certainly not taking anything off the table.
Whilst the idea is to ultimately build something that scales, weâre certainly not planning on forcing anyone to do anything.
Finally, on the topic of revenueâŚ
The ultimate aim here is to produce something thatâs a win for authors and for Envato. To that end, Envato and the authors involved are having a lot of conversations to help us understand the costs of providing this new type of service. Setup, ongoing support, installation- the hosting itself. All of these are things we need to understand to if weâre going to decide who gets what.
The only way that this project will be successful is if itâs a win-win for all the different parties involved. Weâre working together here, If one group wins at the cost of another party failing, then we donât really have a sustainable offering.
Iâll be jumping in to provide some clarification and answers as required.
The marketplace will be inside WordPress, really soon
Plugins will have a page, just like the WP.org plugins, which will list the codecanyon plugins and users will buy inside their dashboard, anything premiun through a nice UI.
I would guess you are chosen to be in it, no applying, they will choose authors who meet a specific criteria so they can run the trial as best as they can before launching.
Weâre not at the stage where we have an applications process. As we say above, at the end of this period, weâre hopeful that weâll be in a position where we can start considering expressions of interest from more authors who want to get involved in the project.
@matthewcoxy this is an excellent idea. I was planning to do this on our own for few customers by manually hosting and providing service. But would love to join the program and I am willing to meet all the terms and conditions. We have an excellent woocomm product that you can consider to make it part of this.
@matthewcoxy What is there for affiliates from hosting packages? It must be somewhere competitive to other hosting providers that pays between $100-200+ for each referral or maintained the lifetime value with monthly payments.
Envato Hosted is in itâs very âunder-constructionâ early stages, and is not currently part of the affiliate program. As we learn more about the product we will look at how best to incorporate it into the program.
At the end of the year we have some information going out with an update on Market, Hosted, Elements, and Studio that will provide more detail on how to be involved in helping shape the program.
Is it worth having a static preview image for items on the hosted page, rather than drawing from the current preview on the itemâs marketplace page? I notice one has a banner saying âChristmas Sale 35% Offâ which could cause confusion and potential dissatisfaction when people are signing up. So rather than it being $19 a month, they might think itâs $12.35 instead.
Such dishonest company and poor support. âFree Trialâ for Envato Hosted is not âfree trialâ. No charge to credit card if cancel at least 1 day in advance? Great! Let me cancel 8 days in advance! Nope, still charge me for the full month. And when they refund, they fail to refund the cost of the FX transaction. If they cancelled like they were supposed to, no refunds would have been needed! Their customer support team says its my fault.
Sham!