New: SESSION GUITARIST – STRUMMED ACOUSTIC from Native Instruments


#1

This looks pretty cool! Check it out. :bigsmile:

SESSION GUITARIST – STRUMMED ACOUSTIC.


#2

Wow 2 threads in 10 minutes, this must be exciting! http://audiojungle.net/forums/thread/guitar-vst-is-this-it/157622


#3

Mhmm… sounds interesting, and as far as I can see it is the same concept like 8dios Steel String Strummer isn’t it?


#4

Demo sounds great, I should think about purchasing it. Thank`s for share!


#5

Nice!


#6

They also time the releases of new products so that you can’t use their vouchers, well for early birds that is. I got my $39 voucher when Komplete 10 Ultimate was released (4 October 2014). The vouchers last for 3 month. I always thought their voucher policy is a bit funny for Ultimate users. When you own Ultimate there is nothing else you could buy (unless you also own something from their DJ series). I think they should change their policy to either “voucher valid for next purchase” or make it at least valid for 12 month.


#7
Sonelibrary said

Mhmm… sounds interesting, and as far as I can see it is the same concept like 8dios Steel String Strummer isn’t it?

I hope not! Steel String Strummer sucks big time. I own it and it’s incredibly limited and inflexible. It also doesn’t work very well in terms of sync. I contacted their support, which sent me back a demo of a sequence to try, although I had been using it properly as described. I put their demo in Cubase, changed the tempo from their suggested tempo and everything went completely out of whack. I sent them back a recording of that result and asked them to try changing the speed more than a five BPM. They did, apologized and sent me a free version of another product they sell, which also sucked.

I believe this works like their Funk Guitarist VSTi, which is very good and very flexible. I’ve used it. The demos on this acoustic version show the flexibility, but I suggest downloading the manual from the NI site and reading through it to see if you agree.

I play guitar, but don’t own an acoustic, nor do I have a good recording environment for acoustic instruments. If you practice SOME of these VSTi’s, such as Ample Sound’s guitar VSTi’s, you can make them quite believable. If this is like Funk Guitarist, it’s very easy to use with excellent results. And as with all emulation VSTi’s, the important thing is learn the articulations, take care in your production, and do a good job of placing it in the overall mix.


#8

It’s sounds good!


#9

Propellerhead had a reason rack extension released not so long ago similair to this one. Tried the demo version and didn’t really like it. The thing is it is very limited an lacks flexibility, there’s only so much you can do with it. And judging by the UI the NI one is pretty much the same. I know the demos sound great, but i’ve learned not to trust the demo recordings for VSTs and rack extensions that much, 'cause what you hear and what you get in the end can be quite different :slight_smile:


#10
GuidoNegraszus said

They also time the releases of new products so that you can’t use their vouchers, well for early birds that is. I got my $39 voucher when Komplete 10 Ultimate was released (4 October 2014). The vouchers last for 3 month. I always thought their voucher policy is a bit funny for Ultimate users. When you own Ultimate there is nothing else you could buy (unless you also own something from their DJ series). I think they should change their policy to either “voucher valid for next purchase” or make it at least valid for 12 month.

Yeah that would be great !


#11
AAMediaMusic said
Sonelibrary said

Mhmm… sounds interesting, and as far as I can see it is the same concept like 8dios Steel String Strummer isn’t it?

I hope not! Steel String Strummer sucks big time. I own it and it’s incredibly limited and inflexible. It also doesn’t work very well in terms of sync. I contacted their support, which sent me back a demo of a sequence to try, although I had been using it properly as described. I put their demo in Cubase, changed the tempo from their suggested tempo and everything went completely out of whack. I sent them back a recording of that result and asked them to try changing the speed more than a five BPM. They did, apologized and sent me a free version of another product they sell, which also sucked.

I believe this works like their Funk Guitarist VSTi, which is very good and very flexible. I’ve used it. The demos on this acoustic version show the flexibility, but I suggest downloading the manual from the NI site and reading through it to see if you agree.

I play guitar, but don’t own an acoustic, nor do I have a good recording environment for acoustic instruments. If you practice SOME of these VSTi’s, such as Ample Sound’s guitar VSTi’s, you can make them quite believable. If this is like Funk Guitarist, it’s very easy to use with excellent results. And as with all emulation VSTi’s, the important thing is learn the articulations, take care in your production, and do a good job of placing it in the overall mix.

Very interesting point. I haven’t used it intensively yet, but funky guitar by NI is really a great piece of VST. The out of synch topic of 8dios Steel String VST is interesting too. I thought about buying it. But the main thing that I didn’t like in the demos of 8dio (what is also valid for the Ukulele and Mandoline VST by them), is the very specific 8dio sound that is audible. If the VST has also synch issues, then it is a no go.

I own Ample Guitar and also Sunbird by AcousticSamples. Both are great when you want to strum something (even better for picking patterns), but it is just not like a real guitar player (it lacks of dynamic, feel and much much more). If you use it in the background of a mix, it’s fine, sit well in the mix and sound great. But for solo strumming, there is room for improvement.

Therefore, I hope that NIs new Session Guitarist does the job better. I’ll wait until some tests of normal users are out there. I never believe in company product demos.


#12

Love some of the thoughts on this. Like you guys, I saw this and was immediately interested.

I have similar reservations though.

As an owner of Funk Guitarist, I think it’s a wonderful, flexible VST… but hardly very user friendly.

I consider myself a power user, and it’s still annoying at best to accurately program it. That, and the many sync issues when dealing with host latency/buffer is not fun.

But it sounds excellent.

I’m assuming that this new VST will operate in much the same way… but even with the limitations, I’m excited for it.

I feel like we’re finally on the cusp of the era of extremely realistic real world VST instruments.

By the way, does anyone happen to know if this has the ability to do single line as well, or only chord strums?


#13
EpicSuccess said

Love some of the thoughts on this. Like you guys, I saw this and was immediately interested.

I have similar reservations though.

As an owner of Funk Guitarist, I think it’s a wonderful, flexible VST… but hardly very user friendly.

I consider myself a power user, and it’s still annoying at best to accurately program it. That, and the many sync issues when dealing with host latency/buffer is not fun.

But it sounds excellent.

I’m assuming that this new VST will operate in much the same way… but even with the limitations, I’m excited for it.

I feel like we’re finally on the cusp of the era of extremely realistic real world VST instruments.

By the way, does anyone happen to know if this has the ability to do single line as well, or only chord strums?

They’ve named the library “Strummed Acoustic”, so I suppose it is only strumming. A good approach, cause “Picked Acoustic” could be a logical successor.


#14

Well, for “Picked Acoustic” in my opinion Ilya Efimov plugs are the best followed very closely by Orange Tree (the differences lay in the way you like to play them).


#15
EpicSuccess said

As an owner of Funk Guitarist, I think it’s a wonderful, flexible VST… but hardly very user friendly.

I consider myself a power user, and it’s still annoying at best to accurately program it.
But it sounds excellent.

I’m assuming that this new VST will operate in much the same way… but even with the limitations, I’m excited for it.

I agree with you. “Funky Guitarist” sounds very good but to use it is a nightmare so I never do. The problem is that the guy who developed it (Scarbee) is a guitarist and he states that keyboard players (people like me) should “think” like a guitarist when using guitar plugins. I think this explains why some people find it harder to use. If I wanted to think like a guitarist I may start playing the guitar in the first place. :slight_smile:

Having said all that, the new acoustic guitar strumming from NI is from a different developer so have no fear. From the looks of it, it does looks easy and logical to use. I probably get it anyway.


#16

definitely the best emulation i’ve heard. still has those moments that give away that it’s fake, especially in the beginning of the demo, “stadium strummer.”


#17

OK - Got this product today and in seconds was up an running without any reading or figuring out. It’s at least five times easier to use than NI’s Funk Guitarist. It’s incredibly intuitive and amazingly flexible. This doesn’t limit you at all. You can literally sit down and play any chord you want, change inversions, add sus4, 7th’s, 9ths, etc. and it does it right away, even without keyswitching. And there are no glitches. It’s very smooth. Plenty of rhythms, includes mutes and alternative open/mute, stops, slides, slow strums etc.

This is without studying the manual, so I’m sure this is even more useful than it already appears. I like Funk Guitarist and for me, it’s easy to use once you read the manual, but if they update it to work like this, I’ll gladly pay for the upgrade… although I’d prefer a free update.


#18

I just tested a demo of Amplesound acoustic guitar and it rocks. Now Im take thought which one to buy NI one or Amplesound. Any more reviews from NI buyers? :wink:


#19
AAMediaMusic said

OK - Got this product today and in seconds was up an running without any reading or figuring out. It’s at least five times easier to use than NI’s Funk Guitarist. It’s incredibly intuitive and amazingly flexible. This doesn’t limit you at all. You can literally sit down and play any chord you want, change inversions, add sus4, 7th’s, 9ths, etc. and it does it right away, even without keyswitching. And there are no glitches. It’s very smooth. Plenty of rhythms, includes mutes and alternative open/mute, stops, slides, slow strums etc.

This is without studying the manual, so I’m sure this is even more useful than it already appears. I like Funk Guitarist and for me, it’s easy to use once you read the manual, but if they update it to work like this, I’ll gladly pay for the upgrade… although I’d prefer a free update.

Now you’re getting me excited :wink:


#20

Made a track using the acoustic strummer! check it out :slight_smile: http://audiojungle.net/item/summer-acoustic-action/11823248