hi,
Stefoto saidi'll keep that in mind,thanks for your info. Thank you guys for sharing your experiences.It seems to me that SSDs are fast but not very reliable.Try to get a disk with as much IOPS as possible. The Corsair had only 50.000 IOPS, but the new Vertex 4 has 120.000 IOPS which means that it will last longer. Hope that this information helps.
felt_tips saidIf you’re putting one in a Mac, you need to make sure to get hold of Trim Enabler. Mac only allows it’s own brand of hard-drives to have Trim enabled. Trim enabler changes that for you without you having to get your paws mucky in Terminal.
hi,
do you need the Trim Enabler also for Lion and M. Lion?
anyone else update to SSDs? the samsung 256Gb for $229 looks pretty good, though need to check if my mobo is sata iii compatible: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147164
there’s a lot of ssds, like kensington, corsair, samsung… 256 gb is the minimum I’d want; anyone trying an SSD lately? and right Mark re having a ghost backup; I’ve used Acronis for making clone drives, don’t know if it works w/ssds though, or how to clone/ghost a SSD compared to regular hard drive. speed improvement may be worth it, since it seems significant
graphic4444 saidanyone else update to SSDs? the samsung 256Gb for $229 looks pretty good, though need to check if my mobo is sata iii compatible: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147164
there’s a lot of ssds, like kensington, corsair, samsung… 256 gb is the minimum I’d want; anyone trying an SSD lately? and right Mark re having a ghost backup; I’ve used Acronis for making clone drives, don’t know if it works w/ssds though, or how to clone/ghost a SSD compared to regular hard drive. speed improvement may be worth it, since it seems significant
Trust me on this one, once you go ssd you will never go back. I use standard hard drives now solely for data backup and storage for media. All my work and process (windows) applications are on ssd. The speed is almost incomparable, so much it does for your performance.
Couple of month ago I update to SSD , 2 Corsair, one of 480 GB for the OS only,one of 250 gb, for cache and renders only(in CS6 the cache thing is amazing when you send it to an SSD).
My projects are on 2TB raid,time machined.
Just remember to keep your SSD as clean as possible.(at least more than 1/2 of free space).
Murat is right ,the performance is amazing.
flashato saidCouple of month ago I update to SSD , 2 Corsair, one of 480 GB for the OS only,one of 250 gb, for cache and renders only(in CS6 the cache thing is amazing when you send it to an SSD).
My projects are on 2TB raid,time machined.
Just remember to keep your SSD as clean as possible.(at least more than 1/2 of free space).
Murat is right ,the performance is amazing.
I have an SSD for CS6 disk cache. I don’t seem to have a problem with filling it right up. It’s very speedy still and I haven’t noticed any speed fall-off after several months of use.
Ae uses a lot of swap I think, so I’m contemplating getting a system SSD, but there I do believe that you need to keep a lot of free space, so it’d need to be 1TB and that’s still unaffordable at the moment. It’ll happen though. I’ve been looking at the PCI SSD RAID from OWC aswell. It’s pricey, but if it saves as much time as I think it might, then it’d be worth every penny.
Probably noob question 
Why would you need to keep free space on system ssd?
ivezicm saidProbably noob question
Why would you need to keep free space on system ssd?
Virtual Memory. When After Effects is rendering, it quickly runs out of RAM. It appears to start using disk-cache on the allocated disk (if used) and swap space on the system disk. I’m no expert, but I do a lot of work with uncompressed 2K and 4K footage and I’ve noticed that some programs eat up masses of free space on the system HD. I leave 250GB free on a 1TB system drive. I’m pretty certain that when you’re RAM previewing and the progress bar changes to the diagonally striped variety, it means that After Effects is not rendering the frame, but sorting out its own internal memory allocation in the background. Sometimes, on Mac, you see the beachball at this point too, indicating that the program is waiting for the system, IIRC.
It’s always good to leave 10% free on a drive for the disk’s own administration and organisation. Otherwise they quickly become fragmented.
Anyway, my theory for maximal speed in Ae is as follows. Max out RAM… 64GB. Large SSD disk cache, SSD (poss PCI SSD RAID 0) system drive. Standard RAID 5 for job storage while working, standard USB single drive for archive. But I haven’t put the theory entirely into practice yet.
I still think there are efficiency savings that Ae itself can make. I can’t quite understand why the GPU accelererated 3D is so slow compared to Element, for instance.
I bought last week new PC and im really satisfied with the SSD speed. I also upgraded to CS6 and the performance the workflow is pretty exciting ! I bought 120 GB Intel SSD for ~$180. I recommend SSD to everybody even clients
hey that’s all good to know, thanks for the notes; it’s a big help. currently using a 512Gb ide drive on win7, probably if i upgrade to ssd os and ae6 iit’ll all go so quick I won’t believe it lol. nice to hear ssds are working well for the most part.
anyone use acronis to try backing up a ssd? i try and ghost my main o/s drive every 4-6 months in case it fails, in addition to the usb 3tb external data drive backups
graphic4444 saidhey that’s all good to know, thanks for the notes; it’s a big help. currently using a 512Gb ide drive on win7, probably if i upgrade to ssd os and ae6 iit’ll all go so quick I won’t believe it lol. nice to hear ssds are working well for the most part.
anyone use acronis to try backing up a ssd? i try and ghost my main o/s drive every 4-6 months in case it fails, in addition to the usb 3tb external data drive backups
Oh boy, Ken… your living in another era with your CS4 now. If you upgrade to CS6 and 512Gb SSD, you’re not going to know what’s hit you. I envy you! That’s gonna be a great day.
If you want the full speed hit, I’d recommend getting at least 32Gb RAM and a smaller (maybe 240Gb) SSD as an After Effects disk cache. CS6 disk cache works in a totally different way and if you have a dedicted SSD just for this, it flies.
I went with ram (48gb) and workflow improved quite a bit. Have to make something new for VH and hopefully make some sales so I can invest in those ssd - both for caching and system. You converted me Ben.
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hey thanks felt, much appreciated – good tip on the memory, and i like your idea too about using a second ssd for cache, that’s smart, that would make it all really fast… on the to-do list now
I have been using ssd for couple of years now, and the speed for AE is insane. Everything is much faster in win7 with ssd.
I switched to SSD a couple of days ago and the speed is ridiculous
About Arconis… tried to clone my system partition with it but it’s only capable of cloning entire drives so it was a big fail - had to do everything manually. Haven’t tried it for backup - it could work but it’s options are fairly limited.
Farley_Design saidI switched to SSD a couple of days ago and the speed is ridiculous
It’s a bit like trading your push-bike in for one of these.
+1 epic. ok ssd and AE6 for holiday present i give to myself then if I can… thanks
graphic4444 said+1 epic. ok ssd and AE6 for holiday present i give to myself then if I can… thanks
No ,no, Ken! AE6 is from 2003… Ae CS 6! 
This thread is trying to make my wallet open…
If anyone knows: how would a single SSD make more sense if I just want faster render times? As the operating system drive or as a scratch disk?
Also, would an SSD on an usb3 external case work as an on-the-go scratch disk or would the usb3 be a bottleneck?
sightsignal saidThis thread is trying to make my wallet open…
If anyone knows: how would a single SSD make more sense if I just want faster render times? As the operating system drive or as a scratch disk?
Also, would an SSD on an usb3 external case work as an on-the-go scratch disk or would the usb3 be a bottleneck?
I haven’t tried as an OS disk yet, but if you’re using CS6, a dedicated SSD disk cache will make a lot of difference.
