Sound Ideas flood


#1

Hi There! I have noticed that for the several days a huge amount of items are being uploaded from Sound Ideas. As i understood Sound Ideas have over 14,900 music items. It is very good music. But this action makes an unequal condition for other authors who write specifically for the AudioJungle.
Please, dear Envato Team, can you make some special conditions for the big companies like Sound Ideas?
The reasons why it is worth:

  1. These huge amount of tracks uploaded at once demotivate other authors.
  2. The search process for new tracks become difficult for buyers.
  3. I think it affects the speed of the approval of the new tracks (queue).

I have some ideas how to solve the problem.
1)Limiting the number of possible uploads per day for everyone.
2) Or special conditions for large companies. Limiting the number of showed tracks per page from one author.

Authors, Please support me if you think the same way.


#2

Yes, my sales in the last days are not the best. Three days of this month I have been no sales. In the previous two months has not been a day without sales. I suppose that this is the main reason. :confused:


#4

Agree, it’s a rush of the items. Audiojungle will be a big garbage dump of music and sounds considering how many new authors income


#5

SFX contributors feel the same pain for more than a year. Because of them.


#6

I completely agree!


#7

Yes! Yes! and yes agan!!!


#8

Yes!I absolutely agree with your suggestion!


#9

I definitely agree!


#11

Its really a lot. Are they so good?


#12

Pretty good. But really a lot!


#13

Absolutely agree! AJ is not a personal Sound Ideas website but the community.


#15

Agree!! It’s the same thing with stock footage on Videohive.


#16

I fully support your suggestions and share your concerns. But…from Envato side, all works fine: more quality content, more money. SI upload at the same conditions as everyone else. No reason for AJ to care about what other individual authors lose.
As I said, the same situation with SFX has stuck at that for years. There were so many complains, moans and discussions about this - but nothing has changed.


#17

I agree! It’s not right!


#18

Yep and this is why Envato would never put restrictions on this - it’s business as usual as far as they’re concerned. More the merrier.

For those that think this is wrong - remember this - we signed up to Envato’s terms, not the other way around. It’s their site, not ours and they will always put their own interests first. That’s just business. It may seem unfair, but that’s just the way these things work.

That said, it still doesn’t change the fact it’s all extra competition and frustratingly another mother-load dumped into an already completely sodden royalty free music market.


#19

You are absolutely right.
But for example, my friend (video guy) was looking for new tracks today. He wanted to find some fresh tracks. For a wedding video.Choose from different authors. And he just drown in SI content. It`s no so good for buyers too.


#20

I can see how that could be frustrating in that one example, but in reality a company such as Envato will base their business decisions on mass buyer behaviour and feedback, rather than on a forum thread of a minority of outspoken authors (who aren’t actually buying anything at all).

So for example, if Envato found that they were getting a higher return and higher customer satisfaction overall in this instance, there’s really no reason to change it.

But if they suddenly found they were receiving an above average number of complaints from buyers, suggesting that the search was delivering consistently unsatisfactory results or results all from the same author, or sales made a noteworthy decrease, then I’d imagine they’d look to changing it or making adjustments.


#21

That’s 1,000% right. They don’t have to listen to any of this. They’re a business making money, not a charity for struggling musicians. I don’t say that to be mean. I’m afraid it’s a fact and that they do not benefit at all by providing special situations to non-corporate content owners. It’s just the opposite for corporate content suppliers. They win big catering to a company like Sound-Ideas because it’s well established in the industry and will bring tons of music buying clients, which they’ve probably already done for AJ’s sound FX offerings.

However, I’m wondering if this is a good sign for PRO registration because the Sound-Ideas music I’m familiar with is PRO registered. Maybe the music coming here is not, but what they offer elsewhere is definitely registered. The licenses they issue from their company site do not include performing rights and the customers are directed to file cue sheets with the PROs.

Not that it matters to me since I’ve made my decision to leave without even uploading any music. Looks like the potential for a volume licensing situation some enjoy here is about to end and that’s really the only thing I think AJ has going for it because the rates are below the poverty level. It might take a year or so, but I think individual author licenses will take a nosedive as the number of music files dramatically increases. This is merely speculation, but if PRO registration is about to happen, while that’s good for composers in general, there is another publisher that might be waiting in the wings with close to 50,000 quality tracks. It’s a company I’ve worked with and they uploaded 49,815 music tracks to two popular micro-stock sites a few months ago. I know they are expanding and are likely to come if PRO registration comes to AJ. If you think 15K isn’t good, just think about 50K on top of that.


#22

Yes, all this is something quite a few of us entrenched in this business have had on our minds for quite some time, especially the non-exclusives amongst us that sell across a number of sites and have already picked up on this. We’re already seeing big drops in RF marketplace sales as a direct result of recent large library submissions.

Also, as you suggest, AJ finally accepting PRO submissions may not be actually be as rosy as we’d like, especially for exclusives here who can’t sell the same material elsewhere. It’s a difficult situation and I can see why Envato have been hesitant to open the floodgates as it were. Anyway bit off topic!


#23

Well stated, Alumo. The SI situation described above certainly isn’t encouraging for small independent authors (hey, I’m one of them). However, a handful of unhappy authors making a plea for Envato to institute upload restrictions in the interest of leveling the playing field, so to speak, will not change anything here, nor should it. This is one of the common themes I see when I visit the forums from time to time. A misguided idea that those who run AudioJungle make policy decisions based on fairness and equality for all authors.

We chose to sell here on Envato’s website, on their terms. As everyone here can plainly see, there is no shortage of authors trying to sell content, and there won’t be one in our lifetime. In terms of supply and demand, there is a never-ending supply of authors and music that will be available to Envato. That is why they are in the aggregation business. Envato thrives by selling more media, no matter where it comes from or who might be negatively affected by where it comes from.

The best course of action an author can take is to devote effort to producing extraordinary work. You’ll find an audience for it if it is exceptional. Despite the fact that there’s a ton of RF music out there, there’s room for more if it’s great, and there always will be.

I have been here for six years as both an author and a buyer (I’m a video producer that has purchased a lot of music here). In my six years, I have watched several artists go from being invisible to being featured and eventually achieving elite status on AJ. They didn’t get special treatment or even equal treatment with authors that were more prominently featured than they were when they were starting out. They had great ideas and consistently created really compelling, useful, quality music. That’s why they got noticed, built a following and became elite.

Trying to reshape the order of how things are done here in the interest of fairness to struggling authors doesn’t work. Life isn’t fair, and the royalty free music business is much less fair than life. Nobody said this was going to be easy.