Serious Copyright Violation

@Hotpin How do you know he has only bought one license? If he wants to be running a legitimate and sustainable business, then I would imagine he’d be happy to pay the small license price.

Unless he is failing to purchase a license per customisation, I repeat this is completely legitimate… and indeed the intended use of marketplace items.

Hotpin I’m really saying this with only your best in mind: Read a bit about what the stock market is used for and what is allowed with the license.
As long as he does buy a new license as soon as he gets a new job this is the BEST CUSTOMER YOU CAN DREAM OF.

If you dont like this then I would really think about deleting your envato portfolio because as felt said, this is the typical Envato customer and the guys that pay our bills.

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@blerc

As far as I’m aware, once a user has purchased a license, he or she is not obliged to offer a link back to the source of the template.

Also on his title if you translate it says EACH WEEK NEW DESIGNS hmm i wander if is “perfectly legitimate, dare I say typical Envato customer” come on lets wake up how i know he bought only one because i havent sell those flyers for some time now and i check who is buying and not one sale came from the same person (thank you envato for the invoice info)!!!

Pay to look at a poster? Hmmm. You’ve just given me a great business idea. :smile:

Another Question:

What if a flyer has 3 different variations, then he breaks them into 3 different files, and sells the customization separately? How would he buy a new License lets say for a new customer ? Will he repurchase when he has a total of three? :stuck_out_tongue:

I cannot link the item, but you get my point

If you want to start a legal fight based on pure accusations then go ahead.
Nothing you said makes it unreasonable that he doesn’t act according to the rules.

Maybe you are right and the guy is using one license and has already sold 1000 customizations.

But new designs each week is also no proof, he may buy a single license of another flyer each week, they are cheap, right? And he raises the chances that customers return to his website to see what new stuff he has to offer.

I don’t need to translate the site, btw, because I’m German myself :slight_smile:

That’s a bit of a grey area with bundles packs. That’s why I don’t produce them. I couldn’t actually tell you exactly where the license stands on that front.

Edit: Misleading use of ‘bundles’

I’m not a designer, but what creattive says is in some way right, but not totally (imho).
The point is that he’s reselling through a website (mass). Envato should know if he buys licenses regularly (or always per customer), but I doubt that.
The point is that he’s a small Envato or store in this way, displays the products that are bought elsewhere and then changes or incorporates them. That’s not the meaning of the bought singular license I think.

You know, price expectations are being pushed down across our industry… in some part as a reaction to marketplaces like Envato, that in turn are an inevitability in a connected, digital world. In our changing industry, with the prices that clients now expect to pay for design work, it’s impossible to create a bespoke piece of design each time. Only at the very high end of the industry is this a valid way of working.

Stock marketplaces help to both create and serve this new paradigm. But what’s clear is that the inevitable accompaniment to a burgeoning stock marketplace is a burgeoning community of people who sort, select and customise those templates for clients who have no interest in doing it themselves, but nevertheless want quality design work at rock bottom prices. The people who do that customising will sometimes be the template author themselves, sometimes not.

Welcome to the brave new world. Like it or not, I think it’s here to stay.

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I’m afraid that’s an assumption. I would look at this individual as a reseller.

Yes I Agree

It’s not a bundle felt_tips, it’s a single product, with three variations.

I would embrace a bussiness with a customer like this guy, but as i said above, he changes the names of the products, and there is no link to the original file. I would understand the missing link, since he probably wants to hide the original price or the owner, so he can provide his services. What i don’t understand is the renaming, the claim of ‘‘NEW’’ design every week, and the assumption of “He will Rebuy” when he sells one. I wonder, would you feel the same, if one day you see one of your video templates in the same website? I think he found a small window in the law and he is using it.

Especially when you don’t use the envato URL as a link to the original

The definition of an end user is the person looking at the poster.

Sorry… bundle’s the wrong term, but I understood what you meant.

Both perfectly allowable, particularly if he feels he can market the designs better that way. Technically, the client should find out that the poster is a customized template, because the guy running this service is supposed to sign the license over to his client following the customization.

I think I’d be happy to see my designs in the same website. I think I’d also keep an eye on sales from that customer if I suspected he wasn’t purchasing a license. But ultimately there are far worse abuserz of our work than this.

Right or wrong (and not trying to justify anything) there is no requirement for a buyer to do this once they have bought a license

So i buy one envato license of an item and:

I can resell the customization,
Rename the item,
Hide the original file’s location,
&
(let’s be honest here) Sell it as many times as I like, since there is no possible way for the public or envato in this case to know how many i’ve sold.

Fine, i don’t even want to think what a violation is like then.

Yes you can,
yes you can,
yes you can,

no, you very definitely cannot - there is no multiple license on the Envato marketplaces and if you or your customer does get caught out without a license it could mean serious repercussions.

Then don’t, but they’re out there.

"There is no multiple license on the Envato marketplaces "

Don’t let my motion graphics buyers hear you say that, some of them will want their money back! :grinning:

I know, I have a badge. It was a figure of speech. By the way, since you are a Moderator, are your replies considered as envato stuff replies ? I am asking because in the old forum flagging a topic would make envato stuff to reply. In any ways, thanks for the replies and the spicy dose of sarcasm :stuck_out_tongue:

ties rope round his neck