Yes, that IS a boat load of views.Unless the 100 non-unique views are the author checking his own track But 135 is still very respectable.
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I have lots of tracks like these. Search engine is not inspiring me at least.
Wasnât it always like that, with the page views? Due to the amount of uploads it is mathematically impossible to always have older tracks within the first several pages in search.
If there would be detailed quick result-narrowing tag-based search - then maybeâŚ
I can say that, sales were not always like this. No page views, no sales. Itâs getting harder and harder.
Same here, I donât know if it has been the changes on the search algorithm within audiojungle or searches in general but I have now probed a big drop in sales.
The only hope I have is that the latest clients were big companies, so that gives me some hope for better days.
I stopped been exclusive and Iâm already selling in other places but now Iâm sure I made a right decision.
Iâm very very very beginner here (I have 1 item for sale), but I donât like idea of naming most my future tracks Epic Bla bla bla at all. And I think there is one easy solution to the titles case. Itâs just my own opinion, so, please, donât throw tomatoes at me
So.
1st step: Make only description and tags relevant for search, BUT with one exception - Title will be relevant only for perfect matches. For example, if you are searching for âJapanese summerâ, and there are tracks with exactly same title youâll see them first in the list, then all other with such words in description and tags. And it would be cool to have little tips saying âExact matchâ, âTags matchâ, âDescription matchâ
2nd step: Make a list of all that tasty words epic, upbeat, happy, inspiring, hybrid, cinematic, trailer etc etc and automatically DONâT allow authors to submit their items or edits IF their title consist only from this words and conjunctions, articles or other non-meaningful ones.
3rd step: Make authors rename their older items to match new rules.
Hi BlackW1nd,
this was suggested many times though itâs still a great idea.
And items older than 1 year with 0 sales should be removed to keep track of the jungle.
+1. I had also invented the names for the tracks, and then I realized that the search by tags is not working and just started to call by type âEpicâ and âInspiringâ.
+1
Couldnât agree more. Keyword and description based searches would make it easier both for buyers and authors.
The more I think about it the more I feel that making search engine working entirely on the basis of the tags and description would make most sense (i.e. take the title out of the equation altogether). After all, how much use is it to customers to be able to search for specific track titles when so many of them have the same name? You still have the issue of the appropriate default order and how much ânewnessâ should be factor but it would be much simply to consider the issues without everything always being skewed by the track title.
I would have thought that this would be a very easy change to make technically so why not give it a go and see what happens? it could always be changed back if it gets a bad response from the customers.
Ideally, it would be good to have the ability to search by specific fields (or combinations of fields) like âAuthor nameâ and âTrack titleâ but thatâs a much more fundamental change on a technical level I suspect.
@PaulGraves youâre totally right but other authors have brought it up repeatedly and to no avail. So there must be other factors, that are to Envatoâs benefit, to keep it as it is unfortunately.
I guess that itâs the case (and probably reasonable) that Envato will judge the success of the SE algorithm on the basis of what happens to total sales. But I do wonder whether thereâs been an assumption that itâs an absolute requirement that customers must be able to search for a specific title that has got in the way experimenting with a different approach. Iâd previously taken the need for a title search as read myself, but have come to see it more as a ânice to haveâ feature. There are very few tracks these days that have a totally unique title, and the older big selling ones that do seem to be safely established on a permanent basis in the top sellers page and are easy to find. Maybe a message to buyers encouraging them to bookmark any tracks they are interested in might be rather more effective (especially given the preview file name problem)
Wish there was an update from AJ if they plan on doing anything about the search algorithm .
Audiojungle is all about exposure.
Truth is that you can upload as much as you want, If the search engine doesnât work in your favour, youâre out. Iâve seen great musicians and authors here struggling while copycats got past 1000 sales in one year. Is this survival of the fittest? What makes a successful musician or Audiojungle Author? Talent and Creativity? Can you compare both? I donât know. What I know tough is that during these changes in the last couple of months Iâve had periods where my older items seem to start to sell again and also periods where only new items got sales. Sadly, the last one seems to be the current situation.
I just searched âClassical, Beautyâ for a client to do a youtube video project to promote this site:
We listened to 3 tracks against VO and the client bought this one:
Iâd have to say that for this session this morning where we recorded a 1:20 VO, searched music, mixed it to VO, etcâŚall done in 1 hourâŚThe audio Jungle search engine worked. I did not use my own track for the project because my classical piece was not long enough. Perspective changes when you behave as a customer. I was happy to buy one of Mirandaâs tracks for my customerâs project. bottom line, Mirandaâs track workedâŚand it worked quicklyâŚsearch workedâŚand worked quickly. Here is more irony. when we searched âclassical, beautyâ as the keywordsâŚmy track came up first!..but we used Mirandaâs because it worked better. The âmusic searchâ process took 7 minutes.
Customers need to make decisions fast and I learned this from this mornings experience. Time is moneyâŚthey donât have all day to listen to 40 tracksâŚwe auditioned a few and made a decision. In total we listened to probably 8 bars of 8 tracks âŚno, no, thatâs okâŚnot that oneâŚoooâŚI like thatâŚlets try it against VOâŚ"I like it, letâs use itâŚclick buy, mix in, done ship final mix to client. That is just what happened 30 minutes agoâŚTrack titles should still be lowered (in importance/ weighting) big timeâŚfrom searchâŚand clients should be required to type in 3 to 5 keywords for the best and most random results.
nowâŚ30 minutes laterâŚfrom a different computerâŚwhen I search âbeauty, classicalâ my track nor Mirandaâs is nowhere to be foundâŚ
No wonder that sales seem so often to come in short bursts and then stop. Iâd assumed it was just random buyer behaviours but if the search results order keeps changing it does seem to support the theory that some kind of rotational system is in play.
But who knows really!
While many Authors here think the rotation theory is horseplay, I actually think itâs possible that such thing exists. A rotation to switch priority between authors once or 3 times a month would motivate Authors to keep uploading.
Great story from another point of view. Thank you for sharing it.
A bit more to my âStoryââŚToday I was a recording studio selling the service of recording and editing VO. After we recorded I said âYou knowâŚthis video will be quite dull without musicâ âŚClient agreed. i said do you need a track mixed in and what do you envision. They first wanted âClassicalââŚI said OK who? Beethoven? Mozart? BachâŚthey said lets try BachâŚWe put a piece onâŚNo one was thrilled with what we heard against VO.
I said âwhy not consider a more modern day pieceâŚone that will grab the listeners attentionâŚdo we really want to hear another &%^$ing piece by Bach?ââŚSo I said to my engineer search âBeauty, ClassicalââŚMy clients were not sitting in the studio, but standing and needing a task done! Time is money. We bought the first page presented and did not browse much. again Time is money. So if you donât show up in search on page 1, you will most likely not be bought!
I would have searched around a bit more, but my client wasâŚwellâŚneeding to work fast, mix fast, get on with his dayâŚget the video done and soon uploaded to YOUTUBE. So yes, today was an interesting first hand experience of client behavior as it relates to licensing music for small business projects for YOUTUBE promotion of a business.
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