Rejected items comment

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#1

Hello people !

I propose that in the rejection text for the items, at least in the print flyers category, there should be stated a reason for the rejection. It doesn’t have to be a lot of text, or even a custom text, just a word or two, like: overall look, typography, too busy etc

The reviewers will just have to choose an item from a list.

I think that would really help many authors improve, as now they don’t know what they’re doing wrong and will not add too much to the review time, since the reviewers will just have to choose something from a list.

What do you think about it ?


#2

I’m not sure how it would help. If somebody has created an item and they’ve made it the best they possibly can… and it’s rejected for bad typography, for example… what are the odds that they’re then going to edit it to create something that has amazing typography? It’s less likely they’re going to think…

“Oh of course, what was I thinking?! I see the problem now… I’ll get on that right away!”

And more likely they’ll think…

“Hmm, well I thought he typography was good. They’re saying it’s not… so now what do I do?!”


#3

Of course it’s going to help. Any feedback is good for improving.

Especially from the people that are deciding what’s good and what’s not.

It will help authors to concentrate on the things that they know they are not doing as good as they could.

The problem was that they didn’t know.

After the feedback they will know, and that is very important in making better designs.


#4

Yes I agree. Feedback surely helps rather than just stating ‘your entry rejected’.


#5

Envato is not a university or a college that teaches design. If you want to work here, you must come here as an already experienced designer. Envato is not obliged to teach you.
There are many people with the extremely low experience of design. And when they upload their items, reviewers answer: “it isn’t at the quality standard required to move forward”. Now imagine what will happened if a reviewer reject bad item, and write something like: “bad typography, bad color gamma”. Author will change the font & colors, and after next reject he will be angry: “You said that the problem with the typography & colors. So why did you reject my item again? I did everything as you said”.
“Reviewers will just have to choose something from a listIn”. Yes, it’s not difficult to choose one line from the list, for reviewers. But that’s not the problem. The problem is that the author will perceive this as a hope, although this will be a false hope. Why should a reviver give false hope, if he sees that this item will not be approved after the change, or that the author is not experienced enough in the design yet?
In this way “it isn’t at the quality standard required to move forward” is the most accurate answer in this situation. Yes it’s sound blurred but is the most accurate answer in this situation.
And do not forget that there is such a thing as “soft reject”. So if reviewer see that your item can be approved, of course he write you what you have to change. If not, you should teach more and more. But not with the help of reviewers. It’s not their job. And they can’t teach you to become the big boss in design, just by chooseing few words from a list. People learn design at least 5-6 years on universities, colleges, art school, etc.
Please understand me right.
I did not in any way try to offend you. Just want to help undertand.
Wish you all the best & growing of your skills :wink:


#6

I understand what you are saying.

However I think you did not understant exactly what I was saying.

I am talking about feedback for items that are hard rejected. I am aware about soft rejections.

I don’t expect reviewers to teach authors about design, because this is not a place for that. But enlightening authors about what’s wrong with their items in one or two words is not such a big effort on the part of the reviewers and will help authors submit better items in the future.

That’s the whole point of my initiative.

As you said, some authors are not very experienced in design, and yet they are still uploading items. They will upload anyway, no matter how many rejections they will get.

They don’t know what they are doing wrong. If they are aware of the things that are to be improved, they will concentrate on that part of the design in the future. And they will improve. They will submit fewer but better items because good design takes time.

I think this is a thing that is needed. Just look at the number of threads in this section of the forum where frustrated people are asking about what’s wrong with their items.


#7

Ok… let’s give it a try. There are grammatical errors in your original post. Now you know what to concentrate on, you should have no trouble altering your original text to make the grammar, syntax and spelling perfect. If you fix them all then I’d be more inclined to believe you. Although to be fair, the concept is slightly more complex than that. But still… looking forward to your next submission.


#8

Thank you !

I’m glad you agree with my ideas.

But to be fair, when someone runs out of arguments, they start looking for grammar and spelling errors in other people’s replies, which are fairly easy to find when those people are not native english speakers.