Important Changes for Non-US Authors/Affiliates/Service Providers

You will still need to submit the W-8BEN module with relevant information (country) or else i hightly doubt they will process the payment even if those sales were not subject to any withholding tax which makes no sense to me.

Just to make sure, the w 8 form and the tax information field on your settings page are the same (meaning if you fill out the tax information field is the same as if you filled w8) someone from the staff confirmed this earlier I think, someone?

Just a little note, to help people having trouble with the form save some time. When you submit the Tax Information form and get an error saying that “some of the details are incorrect”, yet nothing is marked with red and everything is filled out correctly: make sure to first enter your last name and then your first name in the signature field at the end of the form.
Correct example: Gates Bill
Incorrect example: Bill Gates

I’ve been trying to submit the form for about 30 minutes until I figured that out.

You’re wrong mate. Instructions say “given name” and “family name”, they are extremely clear. And there is no algorithm on earth that can recognise if it’s not your “first name” but “last name” instead. People may have “last names” look like “first name”.

I received the same error message but the problem was using some letters from country’s own alphabet. You must fill the form with the letters from English alphabet only.

But you’re right about the notification. It doesn’t say anything about what went wrong. There should be an information or notification about what went wrong so we won’t have to struggle or may be even make some changes that we shouldn’t do.

https://www.irs.gov/publications/p515/ar02.html#en_US_2015_publink1000225127
Poland / Royalties / Copyrights

Huh, I am soooooo confused… but…
I am unemployed from not treaty country and I dont have Tax number…
So , is enough to fill my data from my Profile “settings” ( is it same like I sent W8 form? ) and check " that I am unable to provide tax number…etc ??..then, I suppose, will have 30% lower earnings for Us sales…
Huh, please, someone tell me is it enough…I just can not read this anymore…I give up :frowning:

If you don’t provide a number you will be charged 30% of all your earnings not just the US ones

Actually, no. If you don’t provide a number, but submit the form, you will be charged 30% on U.S. sales only. You will be charged 30% of all earnings if you never send the form.

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Correct. Though it’s 28% of all sales, not 30%.

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HUH…so who has right now???
If I send form from non treaty country without number I will be charged 30% form US SALES ONLY?!!
If I NEVER send form I will be charged 30 % FOR ALL SALES?!?!
and can I do it only from "My profile settings form " .Is it OK??

From what I understand, the form in the “Tax Information” section is the W-8 form you need to sign.

If you submit the form with a tax number, you will get the benefits associated with your country’s tax treaty with the US (usually 0-15%), or if your country doesn’t have a tax treaty it will be 30%.

If you submit the form without a tax number, it’s 30% on all US sales (though I haven’t seen a clear answer from staff regarding this yet).

If you don’t submit the form at all, it’s a blanket fee of 28% on all sales.

Staff (or anyone else) feel free to correct me if I haven’t understood correctly :slight_smile:

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This is starting to sound like an Abbott and Costello sketch.

Correct. Well, near enough.

You mean , 28 % for all sale? :slight_smile: and now, All IS CORRECT? :slight_smile:

Question:
I’v just completely updated my tax information via AJ profile settings, as a “non-US”, “individual” with a “foreign tax ID Number”. Is that it? Am I safe now?

Second question:
The tax that they withhold, can we get it back in some way? Tax income thresholds apply here or not?

Unfortunately not.

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Everything you’ve said here is correct…

If I send form from non treaty country without number I will be charged 30% form US SALES ONLY?!!
If I NEVER send form I will be charged 30 % FOR ALL SALES?!?!
and can I do it only from "My profile settings form " .Is it OK??

…just that one of those 30 percents is 28 percent. I forget which one is which.

its been two days @natman or @collis answered to the queries.

Please answer to those who needs clarification. What happened to your Q & A ?

Is that it?

Yep, if you’ve filled out the form correctly, adding the correct tax ID number, then that’s it. Whether you’re safe or not… depends where you pay taxes and what the withholding percentage is according to your countries tax treaty. You’ll still get somewhere between 0% and 30% withheld for all US sales, but as you’ve filled out the W8, then (in theory) you won’t get anything withheld for non-US sales.

As for getting your money back, I can only assume that you take the receipt you’ll get from Envato at the end of 2016 and present it to your tax people, so you don’t get taxed twice. How straightforward that is, I don’t know. And if your country doesn’t have a tax agreement with the US then it’s likely going to be more problematic than if your country does. I guess there is always the possibility that a tax receipt issued by a country that doesn’t have a tax treaty with yours, might not be honoured. Time will tell.

Thank you for your help SpaceStockFootage!
The country is Poland, and its 10%. (compared to Czech 0%, Slovakia 0% and Hungary 0%, its 10% + wtf.)

But will I get some sort of confirmation from Envato that my account is good to go and ready for 2016?
What I dont want to get is an email with a worst case scenario statement.