Thanks Gareth tried looking but couldn’t find anything in the main index template. We have two comments files comments.php and function/comments.php so am guessing something might be in them. What’s strange is we had the same problem before when someone clicked into an article. The comments were turned off but that 0 comments thing still appeared. But after we put in the above code as mentioned in the first message above, the 0 comments thing went away when someone clicked into the article.