Hi guys! All a happy holiday (who celebrates)! Happy Victory Day!
First of all, I want to congratulate those who fought (our grandfathers, grandmothers)!
We remember their victory, forever!
I wish everyone to celebrate this day well!
Nobody is celebrating? Sad!
Victory over what and who? And when?
How about looking forward to celebrating the end of the Corona crisis (once that happens) instead of bashing Germans for history?
If you had said “The end of the war” ok, but victory …
Learn the history if you don’t know.
All the best!
Believe me - I know the history very well. You would have found that out easily if you had managed to read more than just the first two sentences. Anyway, stop rushing against other nations here. Thanks and peace!
Yes, goodbye and good luck!
Just a reminder: Contrary to widespread notion, Stalin was no different/better than Hitler (i.e. both had agreed to “invade” Poland in the first place AKA “Ribbentrop Pact” - What about HOLODOMOR and GULAGs?)
Hi @Bedros!
Let’s not have a discussion here.
I created topic to congratulate on the holiday, and not to discuss some dubious facts, dates, etc.!
Bad move creating this thread…
Unfortunately in Spain, fascist are growing…
El pueblo unido, jamás será vencido!
You’re right, I already noticed that.
Probably the grandchildren of the losers will not support you. But, in 1945, the winners were loved in Europe and the USA and around the world. Probably propaganda in 75 years has changed people’s brains and this is bad.
Happy Victory Day, grandson of the winners!
Winners with 20+ millions of dead…
Never again, peace!
Of course, you said a little tough, yet we (the forum) are a friendly community . I support the fact that a holiday is a holiday, and everyone celebrates the holidays and can congratulate like-minded people. And this is good, but bad when someone opposes the celebration of the holiday!
I think you understand (everyone has their own worldview
)!
Thank you! You too!
P.S. >>> Honestly, I did not expect such a reaction from the first author (at the very top of the topic) who answered negatively.
I was unpleasantly surprised!
I wrote about him. Even if he is not a grandson of a policeman, he has a free mind, which propaganda cultivates. This is very wrong (to have this without knowing the truth). He pulls out a part and generalizes. This is how propaganda works. This is very bad!
Just to make something clear before this gets even more bizarre: I certainly appreciate that 75 years ago
a terrible regime was brough down (even though our country was not involved). So the end of the war
definitely is a reason to celebrate. And of course the effort and sacrifice of those who have achieved it.
It was just the word “victory” that bothered me. Why? I assume that this a worldwide forum here and it would be disturbing if people started celebrating their nation’s victory over another. In these times the opposite would be rather important.
But that’s just my personal opinion and it was never my intention to be rude or ignorant.
@volkovsound:
As CleanMagicAudio mentioned already, this is friendly community. And if I am not wrong that includes general freedom of speech.
In case you are not familiar with this expression: One can have her or his own opinions with the risk that it may be different from yours.
I don’t know about you, but I consider different opinions challenging - in a positive meaning. In this case I learned that the “victory day”
has a different meaning and importance in other countries.
I accept that, even if I still believe that politics should not belong to this forum. But yes, that’s just my opinion, thus freedom of speech.
Bullying someone however it the pure opposite. It excludes others and puts you exactly on that very same level with those who were defeated 75 years ago.
In a nutshell: victory over fascism.
Obviously, in different countries this day (date) is called differently.
We are not talking about politics. We are talking about emotions for which a person created this topic. If this topic causes negative emotions in you, then this is your problem and you should not spoil the holiday for those who rejoice and remember their grandfathers that day.
You could be silent, but you decided to speak … Therefore they answered you. There is no politics. This is friendly.
In this war, Mankind won, not a separate country. You need to know the story!