Category page experiment update & new Category page design for WordPress

With respect, but I think you are wrong because they have 4 experiments such as the following:

A - 2 months ---- complete
B - 2 months - already launched (2 days ago).
C - 2 months —
D - 2 months ----

it is One year of experiments.

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You’ve got it “lil bit” wrong: A/B/C/D experiments were held during last 2 months. And now we got result of those experiments.

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It’s great to see top authors speak up about this, at AJ we have not had many top authors speak up about the increasing monopoly of the best sellers, which might be understandable considering the income they have on those items. Still even top sellers should allow themselves to have further ambitions and think ahead what will benefit their future self in the long run.

The marketplaces slowly turns into boring rigid yesterdays news without the ability to foster and nurture future best sellers or steady “underground” sellers. I think it’s time Envato hires some new decision makers with ambitions for creative growth and specialised staff with deeper understanding of each of the marketplaces. I know how badly this is needed at AudioJungle and I am very surprised to see the lack of long term ambitions at the other marketplaces as well.

Hope something good eventually will come out of all of this. I’m sure a lot of Envato staff is scratching their heads as well because of some of these decisions ordered from the top.

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an epic disaster.

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Do not write “for some of you this change is unwelcome”, use the right terms: for all authors except for the top 15/20 this change is unwelcome

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Hey Envato … I can believe that you actually did this! The only reason I can think of is that you want the authors of new items to be desperate and submit to Elements. Still can’t believe that you can be that evil. So if you say something fancy like "The test outcome shows an impressive growth in blah blah blah … ", just fire your genius consultant right now and go back to basics.

Most businesses forget the “Why” when they grow and it seems Envato is the same.

What I feel now … is that you just want to throw me out by kicking my butt. Remember, the authors brought you this far, even in the future it is the author who has the yearning to create the next big thing is the one who will grow you. You just knocked them out! …

I was never this much demotivated to make content ever before. It’s not just me but everyone. Think about it. Who would want to put their blood and sweat to a project that no will ever see!

Finally, the truth is that, I have been watching you guys. And it was several years ago I realized that you don’t give a damn about the authors anymore!. So actually decided to have a backup plan and I started attending school again and learn programming to become a Software Engineer, which actually explains the less amount of activity on my profile for the last 3 years. I’m almost at the end of the program now and I am thinking … “How right was!”

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Those are sales of 3 months old theme not sales that happened 3 months ago -.-

Envato team is filled with idiots at the moment. They can see 5% increased sale at the moment. But they can’t see the future. Envato will loose its credibility by selling those decades old items. Customers will get bored by seeing those items every time they visit Envato. This experiment will buried the grave of Envato. The END is near.

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Envato is pushing us in unequal competitions. On the one side , our hands tied blindly and asked to take a swim, while on the other side giving motorboat with oxygen supply to the top seller Authors.
Big ruthless reality, We have no choice but to die.

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Competitors will take advantage of this error. We need to carefully monitor them, it’s time to change the store. Envato let them sell their 300 bestsellers.

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Not enough response to this situation, Envato will evolve from a family to a money company. For 3 years we have made sacrifices from our sleep for customer satisfaction. these days, they started to sell the best sellers superior to everything. The Envato team doesn’t really know what to focus on anymore

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Guys, I truly understand the feedback being given in this thread is constructive and harsh. I have given my feedback and views on this as an author, in my own way, without the need for a secondary account.

But as a Moderator, I must step in and ask that you please don’t create secondary accounts for the sake of flaming this thread. We can see who secondary accounts belong to, and we can detect if VPN’s are used and we don’t want to silence you by disabling your commenting privileges due to this.

Creating secondary accounts is not against the rules, using them to flame a thread however is. I will not name those who do this, but I can assure you that the feedback provided from secondary accounts linked to authors just for the sake of flaming will be ignored and those posts deleted.

If you wish to voice your concerns, do it constructively, even if it is harsh without flaming or creating secondary accounts just to pour gasoline on a fire.

Cheers guys! :slight_smile:

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Every sold WordPress theme at $19 - $29 give Envato guaranteed $12 while author gets $6 - $14. (I don’t want to call anyone to any conclusions or actions. It’s just a words. I’m tired of these prices and what most authors doing).

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Big bro is watching you :sunglasses::eyes:

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Nah mate. I truly understand the frustrations constructively mentioned by some authors here, and that’s fine. This feedback is genuine and can help with situations as this one, however, just making an account to start fights is not a good idea.

You noticed that we ( mods ) don’t step in just for the sake of shutting you guys up. We step in to keep things on topic and civilized. We can fight, we can argue, we can present arguments, but these can be done in a constructive fashion rather than everyone throwing rocks and making a mess of things.

In the end, if we end up locking this thread due to increase aggressivity, everyone that actually had good feedback to provide will end up losing.

See my point? :slight_smile:

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I’m finding that the way Envato is handling this situation quite troubling. The dissatisfaction, one could say rage, of the Themeforest authors is understandable. Considering that this decision is directly affecting the livelihoods of the majority of authors here, I believe that we are deserving of a more engaging presence of Envato, here, in this thread.

What many would like to know, I’m sure, is what is the official stance of Envato regarding the incentives for the authors to release new items if they are practically invisible (especially to a less savvy buyer who won’t go through the trouble changing the default sorting in the category pages).

I understand that for Envato the item sold is an item sold, no matter whether it is new or old, but for the less established authors, releasing new items frequently is the only way for them to stay competitive.

All this is really, really disheartening…

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Relax mate, it was just a joke :wink: Nothing personal. :beer:

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I know mate, don’t worry! I just wanted to clarify the situation for folks that don’t understand your joke and take it as some sort of “we’re here to shut you up” thing. That’s certainly not the case! Cheers :beers:

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This is not a good decision and it will downgrade all new items and promote old items only. So here are effects that will happen:

  • User will see same list in search as in the Popular Items menu
  • If a user want to search for a purpose than he/see can see most of items from Popular Items
  • New items will be highlight for some days when on homepage. There is no way to see new items
  • User get bored by seeing same items everywhere. This will effect in long time.

I strongly suggest to change it to Newest Items so new items can be promoted.

Even if you like to keep it than I suggest you to add new ways to promote Newest Items too. Here are some suggestions:

  • Add new link in menu for NEWEST ITEMS below POPULAR ITEMS.
  • Add a search box on homepage specially for newest items.
  • Add a dropdown after search box with default to Newest Items.
  • Find ways to help and promote Newest Items too.
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https://i.chzbgr.com/full/6075060480/h23AACFDE/

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