Well, one very easy solution to all of this would be this:
Change the titles of your tracks to “Gremlin”, “Saturday Night Barbeque”, or “Hello”.
Change the descriptions to “How to make paper airplanes”.
Change the tags to “banana”, “kiwi”, “red”, “meltdown”.
Or anything else.
Then we’ll see how “intelligent” AI really is. 
No sales anyway right, what have you got to lose?
I personally don’t believe this, but it’s not the first time I’ve heard this expressed.
If it is the case, then this is too late anyway. As I’ve said earlier : Suno & Udio have all trained their Gen AI on copyright data without permission, and quite blatantly. There’s zero chance they’re going to stop and ask composers like us before they do the same.
And they are getting sued in the “trial of century”.
When record companies take tech companies to court, it historically hasn’t gone well…
Ai - so interesting…
Hello. I completely agree. I think they have already decided everything and will not change their decisions.
It’s so simple to understand when The Music Attorney says these things:
"AI is studying “My Stuff” to Make “New Stuff”
“Any music made by a human has automatic copyright the moment it is recorded.”
“If It’s made by AI ,it’s made by a machine, and there is no copyright protection in it.”
So why do Mega Cap Tech and their AI startups want our consent and “opt in” for our data for an extremely cheap price? Remember, they can not even make a real offer (for real money) just yet.
Well, the answer is right above “If It’s made by AI ,it’s made by a machine, and there is no copyright protection in it.”
Then, Why do these companies want to deal music with no copyright protection made by machines?
The answer is so obvious, machine AI Generated music does not require continuous royalty payments to human beings. AI Generated music can and will make the company dealing AI music a lot more profits once those “human royalty” costs are cut out entirely.
Is it not so incredibly obvious that you are being asked to opt into a deal where the end goal is to put you out of business forever? but… GOOGLE, APPLE, MSFT, AMAZON, NVDA, and those with Billions to spend on this project need access to your property, your music copyrights so the Gen AI music model can learn from your copyrights to ultimately create music that has no copyright protection at all!
The end result is no further royalties owed to human authors.
And even more sadly, the end result is “music creation” solely by word prompts like “funk, orchestral, jazz, pop, happy, sad, upbeat, inspired, corporate, etc…”
What a sad situation…
If anyone sees anything “positive” in this “New business revenue stream” you have to be delusional to even be remotley “hopeful” and “optimistic” about this AI Training plan that is being proposed. I really don’t see it as “training” or Learning" but rather I see it as copying. These companies want to “legally” copy our property, keywords, descriptions, titles, sound recordings so they can deal it in the future without compensating us in the future. It’s that simple!
Remember when Sam Altman and other AI tech executives ran into an emergency, closed door meeting with all USA Senators to Scream "Watch out for what we are developing, because it is going to destroy tons of jobs and lives if you do not regulate us, so please regulate us! "
The only way we can regulate this situation my fellow artists / composers is to NOT OPT IN! DO NOT PARTICIPATE. If you willfully and contractually agree to this, make sure you are offered huge sums of money and I literally mean massive sums of money, because it may be the last payout you get. Once AI has (legally copied) your music, you are no longer needed. These companies are highly motivated to obtain consent from authors before the court rulings and governement regulation of generative AI music occurrs.
I opted out 10 days ago, I do not like the way that this deal is an all ecompasssing one and also my use of sample libraries would contravene the TOC’s set out with the use of Ai.
Hi, what exactly do you mean by your PRO doesn’t allow machine learning? Could you please send what they tell in the agreement?
I’ll explain: since a PRO is not a right-holder, they can’t tell you what you can or cannot do with your music. You as an author or a Publisher decide what to do and which permission to give.
When you join a PRO you turn over the representation of your compositions to them, which essentially means you can’t negotiate them on your own any more.
Now my PRO has stated that they don’t allow their member’s works to be used for machine learning. Interested parties should contact them to obtain the proper licenses.
Now your sound recordings you do own unless you have entered into a label deal for example.
So as it stands now as you are with a PRO I don’t think you can enter into a blanket agreement with a GEN AI company unless they have a deal with them.
Do you remember the time where German PRO Gema didn’t allow YouTube to use their member’s compositions? This went on for many years. All videos got taken down consistently or weren’t able to be viewed in Germany. Years later they got into a deal and all was cleared.
There is another problem.
Previews of our compositions are protected only by a watermark. If I don’t want third party licensing including AI, do you think just a watermark will be enough to protect my music?
Do you take this responsibility for this?
Hey peeps, been a few days since I’ve been here. Still see much debate going on. Obviously I think most of us here will not opt-in to this deal, as I think it’s honestly a terrible deal.
Again I know Ben and King are just messengers from the team and what not, but this is just a quick cash grab as you can call it. Jump on the AI trend while it’s hot, doesn’t matter who gets the short end of the stick as long as Envato is getting their cut.
I think the main problem with me is that this deal is an all in one deal. While I understand why this is the case, it’s a bit underhanded to blanket it in an all in one package as you know a lot of us who have been here a while will not participate. And thus, we will get left out of other deals due to this AI gibberish. It’s an ultimatum, simple as that.
Now, don’t get me wrong, I don’t think this is a “doomsday” type situation. However, I do feel the choice to even explore using AI for Envato goes against their stance on actually providing items from actual artists.
Similar to the issue with Elements being brought in. Why pay 20-30 dollars for a one off track, in the case of Elements pay 33 dollars for a wide variety of tracks, or pay pennies for something AI generated that the actual artists will get very very little compensation for.
Regardless of how Envato will spin this left right up down, this deal is not in the interest of Authors here or artists. I feel this is purely in the interest of making Envato more passive income at the low cost of payouts to artists.
Just some new thoughts 
I opted out. I use virtual instruments frequently, and I will not risk any problems with these companies. Not to mention the mess it will do concerning PRO and CID. I’m glad a came to this forum in time.
I opted-out a few weeks ago and only received a Google Form notification as confirmation. I still get pop ups when entering to the landing pages. Could you confirm the opt-out is actually effective?
Honestly, it’s a shame to be compelled to decide on something so relevant without the slightest shadow of information. Hope the authors that are opting out (all of the above, as far as I see) will have access to more accurate and concrete info in the future.
Thanks!
If you got the Google form confirmation then you’ll be opted out. You’ll see reminders on dashboard notifications etc. since we’ll be sending it out to all audio authors even if they have opted out. The notification tool just sends to everyone 
https://envato.com redirect to https://elements.envato.com/
All priority for envato market has ended… Confirmed and done in total silence behind silly introductions and new look smoke screens! 
I’ll tag some authors that might not be updated on this discussion/what is happening with the new terms. I suggest everyone notifies some other composers that they think should be updated on the information, the deadline to opt out is just in 9 days.
@soundroll @Infraction @TimMcMorris @BlueFoxMusic @MorningLightMusic @StockSounds @deepersound @criskcracker @MoodMode @ikoliks @MarscottMusic @Starry_Music @Lubarsky @Sky-Productions @HitsLab @MartijndeBont @RobertSlump @AVOCADO_SOUND @cleanmindsounds @99Instrumentals @Stockwaves @OddVision @INPLUSMUSIC @SternAlex @RocknStock
Summarised some of the risks agreeing to this non transparent AI licensing deal :
Performance Rights: Performance rights organisations (PROs) could be in future claim conflicts with AI generated music.
Content ID: Music registered in Content ID (or not registered) could be in claim conflicts with AI generated music.
No info about what method of AI training will be performed on your music: MIDI, spectrogram, full audio sampling etc
Samples from Splice, Native Instruments, Big Fish Audio and more: Many sample libraries are now stating that it is forbidden to use music with their samples for training AI. This makes a lot or even most portfolios ineligible for opting in.
No info about compensation: No details are provided about how revenue would be paid, if it’s a one time fee or recurring. Shutterstock has already paid a very low one time datasets payment for use of music via Pond5, so a low one time payment is highly likely.
In short, your music being used within AI music could lead to complex copyright and intellectual property disputes.
You much rather want to wait and be behind the shoulders of your PRO and Content ID systems and protection, than in some “secret forever deal” you have agreed to through Shutterstock/Envato which can in worst case lead to quite a mess. Many PRO’s are working towards a transparent system for royalties and protection of your rights through AI training/licensing. There is really no reason to agree in perpetuity to something you have absolutely no info about.
You can opt out via the form in your AudioJungle dashboard or previous mail from Envato, but this must be done before 29th of July Melbourne, Australia (GMT +10) time zone. There is no ability to opt out after 29th of July.
Thanks for the mention buddy! And hi guys, hope you all are well! Yes I am aware of this and opted out last week. There’s no way opting in brings any good to us, and as said before, it’s against the rules of many sample libraries that I’m using.
How do you think companies like these can prove that their virtual instruments were used in a composition? How is this possible, especially if these instruments, libraries or samples have undergone processing such as compression, equalization, and spatial effects?
In which way?
This should not be an issue for those who already protect their music with CID; on the contrary, it could be an advantage and generate earnings from false claims, which in that case would reveal all the limitations of AI technology (turning out to be a mere copy of an original track)
This point is actually the one that generates the most doubts for me and makes me hesitate to opt-in… however, here we are talking about derivative works (where it is presumed that the virtual instruments have been used in a creative way) and not standalone samples or isolated stems. It would be good to have an opinion from Envato’s legal department on this, as we as producers and users of these tools cannot expose ourselves in such way.